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  1. #41
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    Cetek14's Avatar
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    Claire Oreiro
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Reality is often disappointing. Developers have no balls to add DoW healer. As long as Yoshi P is the leader, we won't see anything new and unique.
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  2. #42
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    Corvo Aerden
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    Kujata
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    In that setting pretty much everyone want to become the WoL/D, to rebuild their ruined world, saying she wants to be such doesn't really mean anything special in that context.
    Idk man, even if I didn't want chemist, I can see they are teasing us with that. Let's just agree to disagree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    Also every shop has potions, alchemist can make them. It doesn't really sound interesting to just toss potions at ppl, when i already have some in my inventory. Are Chemists supposed to toss out infinite supply of Mega Elixirs, and fast cast phoenix down, to res ppl?
    Why would they be able to do that for free, when alchemist need materials to manually Craft them?
    Oh boy here we go again... Any reasonable people will not expect chemist to literally toss real, buyable potion at players. They just need to make animation of chemist reloading their crossbow/gun/etc. with flask/bottle/syringe, and then shoot at it to other players (for example).


    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    ppl want it to NOT be a magic healer though.
    We want it to not so magic-y themed, unlike whm/sch/ast. Realistically, it will still involve aether and casting/reloading. Just think of gunbreaker and machinist. They are not exactly magic jobs, but still using aether.

    Sage for now seems like it's combination of mechanical and magic, so at least we got that, but it's still different from chemist in the end.
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  3. #43
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    Fraemoht Grehaerzsyn
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    Tonberry
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kozh View Post
    We want it to not so magic-y themed, unlike whm/sch/ast. Realistically, it will still involve aether and casting/reloading. Just think of gunbreaker and machinist. They are not exactly magic jobs, but still using aether.

    Sage for now seems like it's combination of mechanical and magic, so at least we got that, but it's still different from chemist in the end.
    GNB and MCH don't use their aether to cast spells tho. Their GCD actions are categorized as "Weaponskill" instead of "Spell" even when using aether.
    In order to be grouped with the other healers, Chemist need to also cast spells. Otherwise a stat like spell speed and battle mechanic like silence won't affect them and it wouldn't work.

    I guess they can have "mixing" spell and "throwing" spell, but at that point they might as well make it a different job.
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  4. #44
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    Austen Bloodspatter
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    Omega
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kozh View Post
    Oh boy here we go again... Any reasonable people will not expect chemist to literally toss real, buyable potion at players. They just need to make animation of chemist reloading their crossbow/gun/etc. with flask/bottle/syringe, and then shoot at it to other players (for example).
    it's better to shoot bottles than toss bottles at people? I don't know about you, but i'd rather not have a nurse vaccinate me by shooting a syringe at me, with a crossbow or gun /yikes
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  5. #45
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    Larek Darkholme
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    Gilgamesh
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    Sage Lv 100
    Actually think that Chemist would be better as a DPS than a healer.
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

  6. #46
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    Corvo Aerden
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    Kujata
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Fland View Post
    GNB and MCH don't use their aether to cast spells tho. Their GCD actions are categorized as "Weaponskill" instead of "Spell" even when using aether.
    In order to be grouped with the other healers, Chemist need to also cast spells. Otherwise a stat like spell speed and battle mechanic like silence won't affect them and it wouldn't work.
    I think you're confusing job aesthetic with gameplay. Lore wise, all jobs use aether. And the "weaponskill" and "spell" probably just due to DoW and DoM category. Like I said before, chemist preparing their potion can be seen as "casting spell". It's no different than whm standing around while casting.
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  7. #47
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    Fraemoht Grehaerzsyn
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    Tonberry
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kozh View Post
    I think you're confusing job aesthetic with gameplay. Lore wise, all jobs use aether. And the "weaponskill" and "spell" probably just due to DoW and DoM category. Like I said before, chemist preparing their potion can be seen as "casting spell". It's no different than whm standing around while casting.
    Yeah but they probably would want the job aesthetic to somehow match the gameplay. Even Yoshi-P said Chemist casting healing spell by throwing potion would be weird.
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  9. #48
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    Chemist has some interesting potential and after sage I am not going to lie if sage plays even remotely as fun as it appears to me then I have faith they could make chemist work.
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  10. #49
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    Arctura Fengari
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    Actually think that Chemist would be better as a DPS than a healer.
    People who suggest that Chemist as a dps, have no respect for classic healer jobs. Would you be fine with White Mage being a DPS? Just stop.
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    Last edited by DamianFatale; 05-28-2021 at 06:39 AM.

  11. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    People who suggest that Chemist as a dps, have no respect for classic healer jobs. Would you be fine with White Mage being a DPS? Just stop.
    Yo WHM best DPS.
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