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    Alternatives to NPC romance, since it's a polarizing topic

    Yoshi-P commented on NPC romance in an article recently. You can see his reply here. I've seen people love the idea of NPC romances and others who despise it. I've read a few reasons as to why it's hard to implement, which got me thinking about how something could be done to address those issues.

    So if they ultimately can't do NPC romance, maybe they should do NPC buddy quests. I know it sounds redundant since you can say "Just replay the expansion that NPC appears prominently in" but the expansions usually deal with larger-than-life, big world dilemmas rather than anything personal. I'm thinking in the terms of Mass Effect 2 loyalty quests, where the WoL deals with a personal issue of an NPC and in doing so grows closer to that NPC in terms of friendship. It wouldn't be something with nations and countless people at stake, but an issue that is dear to the heart of the NPC.

    I mean, in your circle of friends, you are usually closer to one or two of them, right? I think it would add some personal customization for our WoLs to have the ability to choose our BFFs. Although it's kind of a moot point if you can do all the friendship quests, it'll probably be best to limit the ability of how many you can do, so like 3 or so NPCs you can be buddy-buddy with.

    I might add that these friendship quests can be used as a good foundation or pre-requests if they ever do implement NPC romance. Or if they never do, at least we would have the buddy quests. They could load the quests with innuendo and ambiguous lines that can be interrupted either way to satisfy those who want a romance if they never implement it. And, like Yoshi-P said, if our buddy Urianger wants to go to Mars, that's okay, we can have a throwaway/optional nonspoken line that we're sad to see him go and hope he comes back soon cause he's our bro.

    I might add that these friendship quests can deal with something personal about the WoL too and our buddy coming to our aid (thus have our friendship be a two-way street). Of course, it would have to be a broad issue like you're helping Aymeric with something personal and suddenly someone says, you, as the Fortemps ward, owe millions of gil in back taxes or something, and Aymeric uses his power to just handwave it all away for you...this is a bad example, of course, but I hope it gets the point across.

    The whole thing boils down to that we get to spend more time with our favs and our WoLs get to have a little bit of customization in terms of who our closest buddies are but it doesn't pigeonhole the NPCs in a way they couldn't be dynamically used in the future. It also deals with the idea of having to animate any type of hugs/kisses etc, since as buddy quests, there would be none of that.

    I'm sure there are other alternatives to this, but I think it's a good halfway point. What do you think?

    EDIT: TL;DR > Let's simply have a PLATONIC questline for NPCs so we can get to know them better, spend more time with them PLATONICALLY, and be better buddies with them.
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    I really like this idea!

    I've always wanted a valentines event, you can go on a "date" with one of the scions & do a series of little events with them that ultimately ends up in a slightly awkward, but cute conversation depending on who you choose
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeyMcFly View Post
    I really like this idea!

    I've always wanted a valentines event, you can go on a "date" with one of the scions & do a series of little events with them that ultimately ends up in a slightly awkward, but cute conversation depending on who you choose
    Thanks!

    That would be cute! Maybe you'd have to enlist them to help with the typical event shenanigans! XD
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    Oh hell no.

    Ain't no way I'm letting FFXIV turn into a filthy eroge
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    The 1.0 companions might be a wonderful place to repurpose into a full blown companion in bioware (and like game) style (loyalty quests also being another element from bioware, so obviously thinking in similar thought to you). Could be neat to have a create your own trust member experience. It's not really important to me to date a character in the game, though maybe Yoshida would have far less qualms if it happened to be an npc you named, created, and grew with, over a named npc that has a specific setting in the game for many players, but it would be cool to have relationship building gameplay mechanics even platonic in nature (grow a bro experience XD). Something fun with that, maybe primal, but like the delivery quests or even beast tribes are both enjoyable to me on perhaps a similar deeper level (and having a deeper social buddy, perhaps combat potential would be neat). On an aside I think thats why I had, loooong ago, really hoped they gave us a moogle companion like FFIX calling via flute.

    Loyalty missions for trusts could be a decent way to move away from levels and into perhaps a sort of meriting / customization, special missions to make them better or unlock different AI narratives / costumes, etc. Also please include chocobo, NOT TO DATE lol, just really want to have a bonding experience better realized with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    The 1.0 companions might be a wonderful place to repurpose into a full blown companion in bioware (and like game) style (loyalty quests also being another element from bioware, so obviously thinking in similar thought to you). Could be neat to have a create your own trust member experience. It's not really important to me to date a character in the game, though maybe Yoshida would have far less qualms if it happened to be an npc you named, created, and grew with, over a named npc that has a specific setting in the game for many players, but it would be cool to have relationship building game play mechanics even in platonic in nature (grow a bro experience XD). Something fun with that, maybe primal, but like the delivery quests or even beast tribes are both enjoyable to me on perhaps a similar deeper level (and having a deeper social buddy, perhaps combat potential would be neat).

    Loyalty missions for trusts could be a decent way to move away from levels and into perhaps a sort of meriting / customization, special missions to make them better or unlock different AI narratives / costumes, etc. Also please include chocobo, NOT TO DATE lol, just really want to have a bonding experience better realized with them.
    I wonder how they can implement a system for creating your own buddy. Hmmm. Though that does remind me of our chocobros lol!

    The point is, of course, not to date NPCs, but to simply spend more time with them and grow closer as friends. So having a quest line for your Chocobo would be neat too!
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    If anything, I'd like to nudge certain NPCs into dating my preferred other NPCs. I've no interest in romancing them myself, but, for example, I'd love to introduce various character to Magnai and see if someone is finally willing to be his namaa.

    Or others where there's been a hint of possible romance between the NPCs, but they were left platonic in canon, probably because the WoL/character shippers would throw a ruckus if they did anything with it.

    My character to Aymeric: So, when are you gonna marry Lucia?
    Aymeric: (spits out tea)

    My character to Hilda: I hear Stephinian is getting pressured into finding a wife soon.
    Hilda: Oh no no no don't you put that hex on me

    My character to Nashu: So does your sister know you're the partner of the Manderville heir?
    Nashu: Cor! No way, my family doesn't approve of Highlanders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    Oh hell no.

    Ain't no way I'm letting FFXIV turn into a filthy eroge
    That's my point? It's a polarizing topic, so I simply suggested NPC buddy quests, which would have no romance nor erotica etc. As buddy quests, the point would be to simply spend time with your favorite NPC and help them out on a personal matter.
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    My WoL is already married, so no need for NPC romance here. I don't see the harm, though! If it's just a thing that only impacts each person's experience with the game, then I think it's fine and can even be a fun addition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    My WoL is already married, so no need for NPC romance here. I don't see the harm, though! If it's just a thing that only impacts each person's experience with the game, then I think it's fine and can even be a fun addition.
    Oh, my main WoL is bonded to my husband's character! I do have an alt I would love to be able to romance an NPC but as buddy quests, even my married WoL can spend more time with my favs, so it opens it up for everyone!
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