Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
Correct me if im wrong, but in order to accomplish their time travel feat, they needed the assisstance of an Unsundered (Omega) and a primal (Alex). So its not really of their own doing, they needed assistance from higher up beings. Rift travel btw is feasible - we know it from Hades, because he summons Azem using the ancient incantation. The ironworks feat simply caused the timelines to diverge, that timeline may endure, but it was not changed. So even should the Ancients have resorted to time travel, it would create a new timeline but not alter their own. I'm not saying btw the sundered arent necessarily non-inventive, but they are weaker than the ancients in some respects.
Oh so your saying, if I came up with a revolutionary way to be able to turn cheese into gold due to the life experiences I have experienced that it is in fact not my own doing that I came up with that idea that later becomes possible due to descendants continuing to try, but those random people I came across during my life experiences doing instead.

>_>

Cid created the plans for time travel due to his experiences with both Omega and Alexander, Alexander is a primal created by who? oh yes the sundered people, and it is not like Omega didn't arrive during the Allagan Empire further advancing their civilisation through reverse engineering, oh wait yes it did, also at the time of writing his plan Omega was in the tiny toy robot that accompanied Alpha so Omega couldn't help even if it wanted to. Who was it that founded the Allagan Empire, I believe it was Emet-Selch as Xande as he knew full well what the Crystal Tower was capable of and was why he even took G'raha away in the final act of 5.0.

Emet did not know how G'raha and the Crystal Tower came to be there and wanted that knowledge certainly sounds a lot like the Sundered figured how to do something the Unsundered didn't. Omega and Alexander were nothing but life experiences for Cid, Cid himself figured out how to do it because of these. Trying to cheapen Cid's and the ironworks accomplishment because of how his life went is disingenuous.



Final note, the ancient people had far longer lifespans, more magical ability, we know more about Amourotines but the wider world is far more unknown and can hardly be commented on, Amourotines may have never seen war but had the rest of their world?, too little information, putting them on a pedestal as the superior beings is quite frankly a little unnerving because even with Amourant and it's people we have such little information to really confirm they were a better race and in fact they seem just as flawed as they made mistakes(Phoenix creation, possibly Hydelyn and Zodiark).

If it weren't your intent to place them on this pedestal your words certainly didn't convey that well.