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    I really don't want them to start delving into more time travel shenanigans when we have so much of the world left unexplored.

    The fact that Ilsabard's map is still not unveiled suggests that Endwalker is not involving it in a significant enough capacity for it to be off the table for future content/expansions.
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    Well, while traveling back we could be in Mide kind of situation. Where today exists because we went to the past.

    Speaking of Ironworks. I wonder if because of them the Source ended up running from the wolf and stumbling on the bear? There was no mention of Ascians or Final days happening in the "bad future" and here we are facing possible complete destruction of the star.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erendis View Post
    Well, while traveling back we could be in Mide kind of situation. Where today exists because we went to the past.

    Speaking of Ironworks. I wonder if because of them the Source ended up running from the wolf and stumbling on the bear? There was no mention of Ascians or Final days happening in the "bad future" and here we are facing possible complete destruction of the star.
    I don't think it would be that, because I would think that hey, the 8th Calamity went through, time for Emet to nap again, and for the Ascians to just hibernate until the Source can take another megadeath situation. In that future, the Ascians go uncontested for their 8th win against Team Hydaelyn. Kinda makes me wonder how the rest of the future calamities will go, what empire they'll make to replace Garlemald and such.

    As far as our timeline goes, it's probably more accurate to say we fought and killed the Bear, and now there's a pack of suicidal hyenas. Kinda dangerous, but we're going to solve the whole Calamity problem in one fell swoop when we win. No more Ascian machinations will be possible after Endwalker. Big win.
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    "I thought that my invincible power would hold the world captive, leaving me in a freedom undisturbed. Thus night and day I worked at the chain with huge fires and cruel hard strokes. When at last the work was done and the links were complete and unbreakable, I found that it held me in its grip." - Rabindranath Tagore

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    There will be 10th anniversary in next expansion. I wonder if they will decide to do something grand.
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    I also look at

    When Elidibus was still Elidibus and Lahabrea still Lahabrea
    as evidence he doesn't think they were quite right; not just that they changed and evolved over time, but they weren't who they should have been and thought they were anymore.
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    "I shall refrain from making any further wild claims until such time as I have evidence."
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    Yeah, Emet asking us to remember, and his actions in 5.3 plus the perspective he has on the other two in the short stories really hammer home that he fully believed the others were to far gone and the cause was going to end with him one way or the other.

    I can only imagine how bad Elidibus's memory issues would have gotten if he had won in 5.3. Even when Laha and Emet were both alive he was clearly degrading, without either around to even try to anchor him or believe in him as the person they once knew, it would have only gotten worse.

    There's an AU somewhere where he lingers on autopilot for so long but forgets so much that Fandaniel could probably turn him into a direct lackey without much effort.
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    Super late on this but I just finally did the YoRHa finale. I'm not even going to hide this behind a spoiler tag because I have so little to say about it. It was just as confusing as the rest of the raid series to me. I didn't understand all the stats either. Someone in this thread said those are the stats from each server on who picked who, Anogg or Konogg. Well, I can't remember whose side I picked a long time ago so not sure if the ending is different.

    I literally shrugged after it was over and moved on. Anyway, back to grinding Loathsome.
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    Emet just calling Lahabrea an idiot does come off a bit strange after Shadowbringers, probably because even at that point they were still nailing down the details of everything for the expansion. But I think its more or less workable. Going by the short story, both him and Elidibus expected Laha to get himself killed eventually, they have really hammered in the lore that he was the one who deteriorated the most, both mentally and in power.

    So Emet being so flippant about it is probably a mix of Emet having had centuries of expecting this very thing to happen, him trying to bury his own grief, and probably on some level at the very least just a little bit of genuine resentment bleeding through. Resentment of his peer for not holding it together like he had through all the Eon's. Leaving him more or less carrying all the weight himself.

    Really, the more we learn about the Unsundered, the more it reads like alongside everything else, Emet had to spend a significant portion of time playing some manner of care taker for the other two. Having to work to keep your two mentally degrading comrades on task for Eon's would take a huge toll on anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slatersev View Post
    Emet just calling Lahabrea an idiot does come off a bit strange after Shadowbringers, probably because even at that point they were still nailing down the details of everything for the expansion. But I think its more or less workable. Going by the short story, both him and Elidibus expected Laha to get himself killed eventually, they have really hammered in the lore that he was the one who deteriorated the most, both mentally and in power.

    So Emet being so flippant about it is probably a mix of Emet having had centuries of expecting this very thing to happen, him trying to bury his own grief, and probably on some level at the very least just a little bit of genuine resentment bleeding through. Resentment of his peer for not holding it together like he had through all the Eon's. Leaving him more or less carrying all the weight himself.

    Really, the more we learn about the Unsundered, the more it reads like alongside everything else, Emet had to spend a significant portion of time playing some manner of care taker for the other two. Having to work to keep your two mentally degrading comrades on task for Eon's would take a huge toll on anyone.
    I always figured he was seriously depressed, which was why he enjoyed sleeping so much. Being something of a caretaker for the other two definitely wouldn't help either, I agree. I think there's a lot of stuff he said or did that was pure acting front, and that's hard to keep up for just a short time, let alone for the amount of time he did. It's not like he could really give us much more than that front for most of the time we-as-WoL interact with him, but there were some small moments where I definitely wished my cat could've used more words. #HugsforHades
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    Which both reveals but explains a failing of Emets, he was tired. The man kept taking really long naps, he'd gotten to the point where he'd wake up, make sure Lahabrea hadn't blown himself or a shard up, check that Elidibus remembered what year it was, make sure Danny and the others were on task and not up to anything funny, sigh that several of them were dead, raise new ones, not even bother to question who or why so many of them died this time, tell them to wake him in a few hundred years unless an emergency, set his alarm for "calamity" and sleep.
    He just wanted to sleep more and more, as they slipped further so too did his grip and gaze.
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