Thread: Revelations from Patch 5.5 (Part 2)

Originally Posted by BlitzAceRush

My issue with it being a "I'm trying to keep you out of harm's way!" is, all he's done is make them want to go straight there, so unless it's a reverse play and he's actually really evil and wants them to come running, or trick them into coming home so he can keep them there, his plan doesn't seem very thought out. 9 times out of 10 the "I've no time/ability to explain, let me do something shocking and out of character without explanation, don't try to figure out why and stay out of it." does not work.

Well they can also go for a darker path for Fourchenault being he did this because he fully intends to let them die in the Final Days because he deems them not worth being saved and to be part of the new world Sharlayan plans to create using the Sharlayan Ark due to what he deemed too corrupted by outside influence.

Thus setting Fouschenault up as someone who was never redeemable because he strongly believes in Sharlayan's beliefs and plans to make Sharlayan the rulers of a new world order after the Final Days and will sacrifice even his own family to see it through. Even to a point we may have to fight him with Alphinaud and Alisaie aiding WoL resulting in WoL having to kill him infront of the twins because he refuse to back down.

Originally Posted by YianKutku

If that Ark is powered by voidsent I desperately hope to have a response of "have you literally learned nothing from the past few Calamities".

Honestly, I won't be surprised if the only thing they learned was to successfully implament the plan without any issues since Sharlayan been keeping a lot of secrets from the world.

Originally Posted by EdwinLi

Well they can also go for a darker path for Fourchenault being he did this because he fully intends to let them die in the Final Days because he deems them not worth being saved and to be part of the new world Sharlayan plans to create using the Sharlayan Ark due to what he deemed too corrupted by outside influence.

Thus setting Fouschenault up as someone who was never redeemable because he strongly believes in Sharlayan's beliefs and plans to make Sharlayan the rulers of a new world order after the Final Days and will sacrifice even his own family to see it through. Even to a point we may have to fight him with Alphinaud and Alisaie aiding WoL resulting in WoL having to kill him infront of the twins because he refuse to back down.

Still wouldn't explain the initial warm reception if he felt that way, though. You'd think the disdain would either come thru outright, or at least prevent him from anything other than detached neutrality when he sees them.

I could see this, though I hope this isn't the way its going, for the twins' sake. Aymeric really had enough daddy issues to cover our quota till next story season, imo.


Speaking of family ties; Do we know if Urianger has any relatives? It'd also be awesome if we could meet some of Moenbryda's family. She was name dropped a few patches ago, I think, so she's not been forgotten. I still take her minion out occasionally, so I think it'd be very cool to meet relatives and hear more about her.

Originally Posted by Theodric

Yeah, Dyunbu shows up in a number of FATE's throughout the Bozjan Southern Front. The FATE description even lampshades that killing medics is frowned upon, yet the Warrior of Darkness and the Bozjan Resistance do it anyway. All the while, Dyunbu is pleading for you to stop killing her men. She survives initially, joins forces with a different group of scattered survivors and then sees the exact same thing happen once again. She's eventually put down herself in a third FATE.

Even Misija was captured (albeit temporarily) yet lethal force is wielded against Dyunbu. Her field notes paint a picture of her being a pretty likable individual, so it's a shame that it ended the way that it did. Ultimately, though, it's clear proof that the protagonists are not the 'good guys' and that someday they themselves will need to answer for their sins.

Matsuno's great at handling the nuance and realities of war, though. So ultimately it's a good thing - it's not something to be glorified or feel 'good' about. There's no real winners or loses regardless of the outcome. Just a load of dead bodies on either side.

Her field notes paint her as a zealot for Gabranth. Eyes on utopia no matter the cost. That paints her as not quite right imo.

Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

I chose execution for Misija, simply because while she was following orders, she was not given orders to temper one person and force him to kill his friends (even Lyon seemed disgusted by this), she was not ordered to turn the Blades into those monstrosities, she was not ordered to attempt to destroy Bozja. All of that was her, her higher-ups have no blame whatsoever in that. When she wanted me to kill her, I tried to, simply because it felt like she didn't want the execution to come from those in her own country that caused her to become this way, but from the hero that had managed to free and change entire countries for the better.


Dyunbu is a medic, and we kill her entire medic squad in one fate and then her in another.

You mean that conjurer who's literally killing Bozjan Resistance, and later comes back as a Zombie in the final fight that she's in? Hardly a moral conundrum there. Killing medics is frowned upon because they're supposed to be treating their own wounded (and if they are treating someone on the battlefield and unarmed that is when it goes against polite conventions. If somebody's wearing medic colors but shooting your men, then damn right you kill them).

I'm fairly certain no Garleans have ever hesitated when killing conjurers from Gridania. I certainly ain't gonna lose any sleep over Dyunbu, and she certainly wasn't an unarmed non-combatant just treating the wounded on the battlefield.