Thread: Revelations from Patch 5.5 (Part 2)

Originally Posted by Theodric

Yeah, Dyunbu shows up in a number of FATE's throughout the Bozjan Southern Front. The FATE description even lampshades that killing medics is frowned upon, yet the Warrior of Darkness and the Bozjan Resistance do it anyway. All the while, Dyunbu is pleading for you to stop killing her men. She survives initially, joins forces with a different group of scattered survivors and then sees the exact same thing happen once again. She's eventually put down herself in a third FATE.

Even Misija was captured (albeit temporarily) yet lethal force is wielded against Dyunbu. Her field notes paint a picture of her being a pretty likable individual, so it's a shame that it ended the way that it did. Ultimately, though, it's clear proof that the protagonists are not the 'good guys' and that someday they themselves will need to answer for their sins.

Matsuno's great at handling the nuance and realities of war, though. So ultimately it's a good thing - it's not something to be glorified or feel 'good' about. There's no real winners or loses regardless of the outcome. Just a load of dead bodies on either side.

It is sad but it is also the result of mentality between each forces.

Gabranth's army has set standards for themselves in this war due to superior numbers and forces but the Resistance have gone into full kill who and what they can to win the war due to lower numbers and resources.

It is one of the oldest questions of war being what is tolerated during times of war and what is tolerated during times of peace.

Standards of right and wrong can greatly change between times of war and times of peace to a point it feels almost like different worlds during these two different times.


Let me bring up a example of this from a different game I play called Genshin Impact involving a character named Zhongli.

During current era when his homeland Liyue is at peace, people will look down on people who will hurt unarmed people or people who do not intend to fight. However during the era of the Archon War, everyone was killing each other doing whatever it takes to claim one of the 7 seats of Archons to become rulers of a land.

It was literally the Law that 7 Gods of the lower lands must claim the seat by killing each other and no one above 7 were allowed to live as decreed by the Celestial gods living in the land of Celestia. Those who claim the 7 seats will then be given the ability to determine what is right and wrong in the lands they rule.

However, during this era Zhongli was forced to kill many friends who also wanted to claim a seat. Those who did not fighting and kill were considered weak or easy targets thus those who refused to fight were easily killed off by those who did choose to fight. One of Zhongli's friends who was the God of Salt was even killed by her own followers because eventually she will be killed by another God and her followers did not want her to suffer a painful death within what little land she had left. Those who did fight formed alliances together but known one day they will have to turn on each other if there still remains more than 7 lower Gods which Zhongli did with the God of Ash Guizhong. However, Guizhong died during the Archon War at the hands of another God and told Zhongli in her final moments to forget about the puzzle box she gave him (which some people assume that the box may contain her love confession to Zhongli due to their relationship ).

It was only after the Archon War ended when standards for such harsh actions commited during the Archon War were placed by Zhongli and the other Archons in their lands to prevent them from happening during times of peace. Do people still judge Zhongli for what he did during the Archon War? Yes but at the sametime they can't put the standards of right and wrong for a time of peace on him since during a time of war it was right to kill unarmed people and people who refuse to fight due to it being wrong during that time to refuse to fight and not do whatever they can to claim one of the 7 seats of Archons. It was only after the Archon War ended when harming unarmed people or people who do not intend to fight became a standard in right and wrong due to laws established by Zhongli in Liyue.

Originally Posted by EdwinLi

a character named Zhangli

Good writeup, but it's spelled Zhongli, with an 'o'.


Sorry...

Originally Posted by Fenral

Good writeup, but it's spelled Zhongli, with an 'o'.


Sorry...

it's fine.

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Now back on topic....


I still heavily suspect Sharlayan been planning for the Final Days for a very long time. We know that we my even enter a Ark that Sharlayan made in 6.0 as a Dungeon which looks almost or is already complete.

I still suspect, they have always planned to be the only surviving civilization after the Final Days or maybe they always planned to start the Final Days themselves so they can create a world they believe will be a better one under the rulership of their chosen few raised and born in Sharlayan.

We have always known and seen that Sharlayan see themselves as superior than other civilizations to a point they consider everyone else savages and themselves civilized people.

Originally Posted by YianKutku

If that Ark is powered by voidsent I desperately hope to have a response of "have you literally learned nothing from the past few Calamities".

We just might. ShB gave us more chances than ever to snark at people. Ishikawa willing, EW will continue that.

Honestly, even if Fortnite had no relation to the twins and had just come to deliver the Forum’s answer and leave right after, his “ah yes, Reapers” attitude makes me want to rip into him even worse than Y’shtola is doing in the trailer.