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  1. #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanchi View Post
    I don't "think". It is outright stated in the German text.
    In german, the translator chooses to use "Mein Zorn" aka my anger, it is not even implied but outright stated that Zenos is very much talking about himself.
    Your part in the quotes is not the right one for the context.

    "Und dann... wird die ultimative Jagd ihr Ende finden."

    "die ultimative Jagd" more than clearly stands for his long-awaited meeting with us again, for a final showdown.


    Calling out things directly is not the onliest way to point on things. Especially in the german language the indirect way is very common.
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    Videos mit der Hauptgeschichte und ausgewählten Nebenquestreihen (deutsch): https://www.youtube.com/user/KSVideo100

  2. #172
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
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    Please reread what you just wrote.
    Mein eisiger Zorn, der das Blut in meinen Adern zum kochen bringt, soll der Brennstoff meines Hasses sein.



    Where in there does it imply he's talking about the WoL if you're the german expert here. I never disagreed that hunt clearly means the final showdown with the WoL. But the anger and hatred which YOU quoted from me btw, is clearly talking about himself. He uses "Mein" und "meinen, meines" I'm not sure how to explain this more in depth. The sentence afterward is completely irrelevant to what you quoted from me in the first place as I was talking about the differences in the following sentence "My icecold wrath that is boiling through my veins shall be the fuel of my hatred. That is the word for word translation, where is he is talking about himself, meanwhile in English French and Japanese he is directly saying YOUR ice old wrath and so on and so forth.
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  3. #173
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    Miyo Mohzolhi
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    I've been thinking about the last cutscene with Zenos.

    He's standing there with his brand new scythe weapons, having cut down several people.

    My question is who are those unfortunate people?

    They're dressed in the visual shorthand for Eorzean Grand Company soldiers, ie low-level gear dyed red, green, and gold. But this is presumably in the middle of Garlemald, and I don't think Eorzean soldiers have made it that far yet. (Not to mention we didn't see anyone dressed like Ishgardian knights or Ala Mhigan Resistance.)

    They're also obviously not there on a covert mission, given they're dressed in Grand Company colours.

    So who are they? Are they Garlean conscripts who happen to be dressed in other gear and colours due to the civil war?
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  4. #174
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    Alijana Tumet
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    I'm assuming they're just random people who thought that maybe they had a chance at putting a stop to all the chaos the Telophoroi have been stirring up in Garlemald and the neighboring regions or were simply trying to investigate what was happening in the first place.

    I'd be surprised if there wasn't some faction of Garleans fruitlessly trying to resist the advance of their tempered brethren whom we end up allying ourselves with when the time to raid the capital finally arrives in 6.0.
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  5. #175
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    Vicious Zvahl
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    Quote Originally Posted by YianKutku View Post
    I've been thinking about the last cutscene with Zenos.

    He's standing there with his brand new scythe weapons, having cut down several people.

    My question is who are those unfortunate people?

    They're dressed in the visual shorthand for Eorzean Grand Company soldiers, ie low-level gear dyed red, green, and gold. But this is presumably in the middle of Garlemald, and I don't think Eorzean soldiers have made it that far yet. (Not to mention we didn't see anyone dressed like Ishgardian knights or Ala Mhigan Resistance.)

    They're also obviously not there on a covert mission, given they're dressed in Grand Company colours.

    So who are they? Are they Garlean conscripts who happen to be dressed in other gear and colours due to the civil war?
    Probably advanced scouting parties or prisoners given weapons to be sport for a small smattering of entertainment before their souls are taken, perhaps.
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    "I thought that my invincible power would hold the world captive, leaving me in a freedom undisturbed. Thus night and day I worked at the chain with huge fires and cruel hard strokes. When at last the work was done and the links were complete and unbreakable, I found that it held me in its grip." - Rabindranath Tagore

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    I think there have been previous mentions of Grand Company scouting parties vanishing while investigating the towers. It's probably them.
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  7. #177
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    Finally got around to whirlwind sprinting through Zadnor

    Story had interesting happenings. Particularly, I thought the aetheric frequency machine to blow up the ceruleum was genius. It reminded me of the Sunfire being used to blow up the Sunfire driven engine of the Dreadnaught in FFII, only a little less dramatic and a lot more innovative.


    I was surprised that mettle gains were over 10x what we got in Bozja right out of the gate. But big numbers please my ape brain, and the whole process felt expedited. I wondered about the Honors buffs as I leveled, and I watched a WHM with them do the Serpent's Head duel in a traditional, slow method. Though I didn't really realize what lost actions they were using to defend themselves. I got the duel later, and hadn't looked it up, not expecting to get picked. Died to the first cast, because I didn't have Lost Reflect. Heard and saw on Youtube that duels can be effectively cheesed... I say more power to that. Duels are kinda BS if they can one shot you right out of the gate too, though I suppose they've been like that.

    Really liked all the little lore that piled up across the skirmishes, and seeing the Ivalician Lucavi reappearing in Skirmishes was certainly welcome. I wish that they'd added lines for Oboro and Tsubame to recognize you if you'd done the Ninja questline.

    I honestly kind of think Pagaga's backstory is sorta dumb. I'd much rather they had introduced a proper Vochstein Ala Mhigan. Her emote is cute though.

    The zone look and feel was good. Felt like a salt flat kinda, and then you get the sorta sparse forest in the second area, and then more salt flat with extra craters. Definitely seems like they made each area bigger, so that people would compartmentalize, so that relic farmer isn't just easily done. You have to commit to an area pretty much, cause even with the riding map there's no getting credit on all or even half of the skirmishes in zone.

    Dalriada was really fun, if a bit easy. Diabolos was quite a surprise, though it's not really Diabolos, but an Allagan driven manifestation of him controlled and weaponized. The call back to Lost City door mech was a nice touch. It actually killed me because my eyes are bad at reading angles/depth, but only that first run.

    I also really loved the fight with uhm... Garlean guy in a robot and Lyon. It really highlighted how much more powerful it is to be a being that can manipulate aether, with Dawon the Younger giving his life force to power the mech back up.

    The fights before that were visual set pieces. I've gone top every time so far, because no one seems interested in doing that, so I have no idea what's on the bottom route at the start.

    Storyline wise I expected the non-choice. It seems like SE thinks that giving us choices is more of a, "How would you like to be emotionally/mentally manipulated by the plot?" Cause I sorta read it as, if you believe that evil doers should get an immediate come-uppence and in this case, one at all, that oh you didn't think they might be important... cause the scriptwriter said so! I did appreciate that the story lets you kill her though, and you resolve to do it, but then are stopped... cause she succumbs to her injuries first. :/ \: Let me express myself as closely as the dialogue options allow, please, or just go back to having the WoL nod. Smh. The only thing so far to have had a truly different outcome that I know of is the Eureka choice, and that has yet to come back around for a true difference between playthroughs/MSQ.

    Anyway, I'm still having fun with Zadnor. I like the honors grind to get insanely powerful. I've already seen some claims that the echo bonus for Dalriada has allowed people to do it with a mere three people, they having 600k HP due to Honors and Echo. Sounds insane.

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    "I thought that my invincible power would hold the world captive, leaving me in a freedom undisturbed. Thus night and day I worked at the chain with huge fires and cruel hard strokes. When at last the work was done and the links were complete and unbreakable, I found that it held me in its grip." - Rabindranath Tagore

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    So what changed in that one dialog option that tells you that it will have a permanent effect?
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  9. #179
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuella View Post
    So what changed in that one dialog option that tells you that it will have a permanent effect?
    I'd assume it just influences the dialogue choices you get at the end of the questline...though it seems like most people picked the "deserves death" option so I wouldn't know what the others offer.
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  10. #180
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    Samniel Atkascha
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    I chose the

    "Her superiors are to blame" option; and at the end I chose not to kill her, but Bajsaljen stopped me as if I had chosen to do it anyway.


    Seeing the responses of those who picked the other choice, I don't see a big change, really.
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