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    Player
    Fenral's Avatar
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    W'fharl Tia
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    On "the dreamer" (MSQ):
    A living being, willingly trapped in an endless dream in order to generate significant amounts of energy and sustain some kind of magical construct... Wait a sec, that's beginning to sound a lot like a Fayth. They did already show us Anima...

    FFX featured Kazushige Nojima at his most blatantly philosophical, and I still turn over its themes in my head every now and again. (To the chagrin of many, here and elsewhere.) Natsuko Ishikawa is, by her own admission, not a very philosophical writer, but Shadowbringers already touched on similar themes with Aumarot and the summoning of Zodiark. I can't help but wonder if she's been feeling a bit of FFX influence lately, and if we'll be getting a lot more of that in Endwalker.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    On "the dreamer" (MSQ):
    A living being, willingly trapped in an endless dream in order to generate significant amounts of energy and sustain some kind of magical construct... Wait a sec, that's beginning to sound a lot like a Fayth. They did already show us Anima...

    FFX featured Kazushige Nojima at his most blatantly philosophical, and I still turn over its themes in my head every now and again. (To the chagrin of many, here and elsewhere.) Natsuko Ishikawa is, by her own admission, not a very philosophical writer, but Shadowbringers already touched on similar themes with Aumarot and the summoning of Zodiark. I can't help but wonder if she's been feeling a bit of FFX influence lately, and if we'll be getting a lot more of that in Endwalker.
    Wait, then is it possible that
    the "dreamlike" Kingdom of Zeal looking area we were shown belongs to the Dreamer?


    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    MSQ stuff.
    Did anyone else hear a roar right after Zenos monologue?
    I did not, but maybe we should "Fear the Old Blood?"
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    Last edited by RyuDragnier; 05-26-2021 at 06:34 AM.

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    Noa Kyrie
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Wait, then is it possible that
    the "dreamlike" Kingdom of Zeal looking area we were shown belongs to the Dreamer?
    Well come to think of it
    They did compare the "Zeal" area to Il Mheg and emphasized its odd appearance, so I wouldn't be surprised if it's a dream world.
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    Jennah Arhtima
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    The Dreamer

    Couple of possibilities. Zodiark seems likely. Zenos himself, though the speech flows weirdly, even for Fandaniel, if so. I might also consider "Fandaniel's ???" that Ishikawa referred to in the fanfest. Or even Lahabrea, who seems to only be mostly dead? Fun Longshot: Fandaniel means the WoL themself, somehow referring to the echo - any chance in the French/German the pronoun is feminine for a female WoL player?


    The Lady

    It's almost certainly Venat - SE has a long, long history of the obvious answer being the correct one. If not her, Hydaelyn herself, in some form. The other decent possibility I can think of is one of The Twelve, given the upcoming raid. (Of course, she could STILL also be Venat and/or Hydealyn.) Most likely Menphina - given that the pre-order gave us her earring, and she's related to The Moon.


    YorHA

    I was REALLY hoping for a reason to care about this story, but ... guess not. Any chance doing a NewGame+ gives a different ending? Probably not, or the patch notes would've said...


    Bozja

    Not gonna do it. Never, ever, ever. Would love a story summary from someone who can stand it at some point in the future.
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    Noah Zephyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennah View Post
    The Dreamer

    Couple of possibilities. Zodiark seems likely. Zenos himself, though the speech flows weirdly, even for Fandaniel, if so. I might also consider "Fandaniel's ???" that Ishikawa referred to in the fanfest. Or even Lahabrea, who seems to only be mostly dead? Fun Longshot: Fandaniel means the WoL themself, somehow referring to the echo - any chance in the French/German the pronoun is feminine for a female WoL player?
    my 2 cents really

    I'm playing a female WoL but it does not change in language :/
    I am really wondering about whoever they are adressing, especially the sentence Fandaniel is saying afterwards, while he is looking up at the tower. It sounds like whatever he is trying to ressurect/awaken has the same perspective as him aka wanting to see the world be destroyed. He can't be adressing Zodiark, simply for the fact that Zodiark was summoned for the salvation of the star not the destruction. Is he perhaps trying to awaken the sound that drove everyone crazy in the past? Not too sure but I doubt its zodiark.
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    So happy for Alphinaud that has dream has finally come true. His character has come very far and I'm looking forward to see where his development culminates in Endwalker. This patch ahs very much made it feel like he'll be a big focus in the EW MSQ.

    Is the Forum having 99 members new?
    The twins' mom's name is definitely new: Ameliance. Not going to lie, all this time I had assumed she was dead.

    I expected Fourchenault to force the twins to come home, not to disown them. My jaw actually dropped.

    Playing as everyone in this duty was hype. I wonder if that aether confluence beneath Carteneau is why it was chosen to be where Dalamud fell? Like if it would have destroyed the same things Fandaniel was trying to destroy. Hope we learn more in the future.
    Can DRG get that badass shadow clone Stardiver that Estinien used?

    Fandaniel calling that tower the "gateway to the gods" tells me it's going to be how we access the moon. Wouldn't be surprised if it's called either the Tower of Zot or Tower of Babil.

    Venat is pretty.


    This is going to be a looooong six months. In the meantime, it's off to Bozja!
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    Player EaraGrace's Avatar
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    Eara Grace
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    Ok, so one quick question to those who finished the Yorha quest line

    Those stats, were they all 65-70 Konogg, 30-35 Anogg for everyone else? The fact that they were so consistent over every data center and server is super weird to me.



    Like what are these numbers lol


    Quote Originally Posted by Nanchi View Post

    I'm playing a female WoL but it does not change in language :/
    I am really wondering about whoever they are adressing, especially the sentence Fandaniel is saying afterwards, while he is looking up at the tower. It sounds like whatever he is trying to ressurect/awaken has the same perspective as him aka wanting to see the world be destroyed. He can't be adressing Zodiark, simply for the fact that Zodiark was summoned for the salvation of the star not the destruction. Is he perhaps trying to awaken the sound that drove everyone crazy in the past?
    Longshot, conspiratorial thought, but aren’t the creatures formed by the Sound described as nightmares at different points? Or at least born from their nightmares (can’t find the specific quotes atm)?
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    Last edited by EaraGrace; 05-26-2021 at 04:12 AM.

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    Lucana Wyght
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    I'm pretty sure those are
    the percentages of people that sided with each dwarf on each server.
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    Player EaraGrace's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    I'm pretty sure those are
    the percentages of people that sided with each dwarf on each server.
    I’m more referring to
    how uniform they are despite the sheer amount of servers. Just seems odd.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Credits roll on 5.5!

    Crystarium flashbacks on the credits feel like forever ago.

    and final image of the credits is the moon over Mor Dhona and the Crystal Tower.

    The group battle was cool but ended strangely abruptly.

    First time we've seen G'raha use his aetherial paladin sword in a story battle rather than purely for trust purposes. It was also cool using his mage form with Break. Also I hadn't thought of it before but I realised he's technically a red mage with his mix of black and white magic and sword skills.

    Meanwhile... Arenvald. I get that this game's NPC design is a bit rigid, but couldn't they make him look at least a bit more scratched up? He looks like he's got a broken ankle, not like he was recently mauled by a demon and barely dragged from death's door.

    And Forchenault. Travelling quarter-way round the world just to tell his kids they're disowned. Wow.
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