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    Crushnight's Avatar
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    Well Forchenault certainly put on a performance though I have to wonder for who and for what purpose, G'raha saw through it rather easily, perhaps the Forum has decided a course of action Forchenault doesn't actually agree with but is forced to go along with and wants to have help in overturning said decision.

    As for his announcement of the twins no longer bearing the name of Levialler, a manipulative ploy, I am sure he is aware how rash Alisae can be and that Alphinaud would go after his sister, I think this was just a way for him to trick them to come home but this was cruel and I hope we get to call him out on it if he does actually care about his children.

    Flandaniel and Zenos are pondering about a dreamer, is the dreamer Zenos or does it involve Lakshmi since her tempered are known as dreamers.

    As for their goal seems like Zenos wants to use the lifestream to power himself up more and gorge himself on Zodiark all for that big dramatic pointless fight he craves. Flandaniel certainly making up plans as they go along, but these plans are trying to do 2 things, if they succeed he kills a large quantity of people, if it fails it stalls his enemies from discovering his big plan, either way he gets a benefit out of it.

    The roar could be anything at this point, Vrjra, Anima, Lavos, anything it was offscreen and distorted.


    Bozja

    Diabolos returning was interesting and raises more questions though, did the Allagans actually summon him or just part of his essence, because he got fully summoned by High Voidmage Cessair to coerce Amdapoor into surrender and then promptly sealed, yet this happened while he was also fused to Allagan tech at the same time.

    So was the Diabolos we face in Mhach still not at 100% full strength even after absorbing the queen, certainly adds more fuel to Diabolos can return again fire.

    Gabranth being killed offscreen feels more like a writing trick for a way to be able to leave the story as is if they don't touch it again than an actual finale to his story. I suspect if they want to they can easily pick up the story again where it left off and it is more a matter of if they want to.


    Yorha

    Well that ended weirdly the fact both dwarfs were red haired and acted the way they do I should've gotten the Devola and Popola vibes much sooner, perhaps these two are the original ones that the android ones get based off of.

    I will say this went out with a whimper
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    I really don't have anything new to add that others haven't already pointed out. I think because I was tired from getting little sleep the previous night, my attention on this update wasn't all there. I was really tired so I think I need to go back and re-watch the cutscenes.

    My initial impression was that aside from some moments, like 4Channel disowning the twins and the formation of the Grand Company, this was - and I hate to say this - dull. But again, the caveat here was that I was really tired and probably should not have played this until I had gotten a good night's sleep. I kept fighting off sleep.

    Also, what's up with Aymeric's voice? The last few patches he's been really overdramatic with his lines. He used to be calm, cool and collected, even in the face of dire circumstances. Now, everything seems to be a bit over the top. Maybe it's just me.

    The solo duty was a tad annoying. I'm not a big fan of fighting as others and the fights themselves were gimmicky. "Don't let the confluence be destroyed!" I did the whole thing on super easy mode so I could get back to the story.

    The ending was a little interesting with the mystery woman showing up. At first I thought it was Minfillia, but then when I saw it wasn't her, I assumed it was Hydaelyn. After reading this thread, it appears it was Venat. So, basically Hydaelyn.

    The moon already looks like it's changing, so that was weird. Looking forward to Endwalkers!


    I'll post my takes on Bozja and Yorha after I play through them.
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    Last edited by Lium; 05-27-2021 at 04:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    Bozja

    Diabolos returning was interesting and raises more questions though, did the Allagans actually summon him or just part of his essence, because he got fully summoned by High Voidmage Cessair to coerce Amdapoor into surrender and then promptly sealed, yet this happened while he was also fused to Allagan tech at the same time.

    So was the Diabolos we face in Mhach still not at 100% full strength even after absorbing the queen, certainly adds more fuel to Diabolos can return again fire.
    HW lore that might be important
    In various places in Azys Lla and the Fractal Continuum, it is mentioned that the Allagans were trying to artificially replicate Voidsent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
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    that big dramatic pointless fight he craves.
    I just saw this and I’m howling because it’s so true. Like, why even go to all this bother if what you want is so simple?
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    “Oh well, we tried. I guess I better get out of Eorzea before they start having EF5s every day.“

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tensaihime View Post
    I just saw this and I’m howling because it’s so true. Like, why even go to all this bother if what you want is so simple?
    Just look at who founded the empire and is the basis for all Garlean culture. Of course everything needs to be as overly dramatic as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    Just look at who founded the empire and is the basis for all Garlean culture. Of course everything needs to be as overly dramatic as possible.
    Oooh, that’s a very good point.
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    “Oh well, we tried. I guess I better get out of Eorzea before they start having EF5s every day.“

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    The weirdest part about Yorha was that not only did every single server apparently side with the same character, but the percentages were all nearly identical. As I was watching the text scroll I couldn't help but wonder if the numbers were even real. Like, are those some made up stats just to mess with us? I wouldn't be surprised given the Yoko Taro level BS the rest of it was.
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    I can buy the lopsided turnout—the Valentione's event where they did the same thing was similarly lopsided in the Red choice's favor. But I have to wonder if they actually implemented a separate series of events for the Konogg route, and to what extent that could've even changed things. I mean, it's not like they could've had two different versions of the Puppet's Bunker, right?
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    Trpimir Ratyasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    The weirdest part about Yorha was that not only did every single server apparently side with the same character, but the percentages were all nearly identical. As I was watching the text scroll I couldn't help but wonder if the numbers were even real. Like, are those some made up stats just to mess with us? I wouldn't be surprised given the Yoko Taro level BS the rest of it was.
    Every server I saw sided with Anogg over Konogg. The ratio of Anogg : Konogg rose as the "credits" rolled, but they weren't identical across the board.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenstrauch View Post
    I can buy the lopsided turnout—the Valentione's event where they did the same thing was similarly lopsided in the Red choice's favor. But I have to wonder if they actually implemented a separate series of events for the Konogg route, and to what extent that could've even changed things. I mean, it's not like they could've had two different versions of the Puppet's Bunker, right?
    Well, the thing is that the Valentoine's event more or less pushed Astrid as the "right" choice. (For the record I picked Bert.) I wouldn't say either was billed as "right" when siding with Anogg or Konogg.

    I wouldn't believe they developed two different versions of Puppet's Bunker / Tower at Paradigm's Breach, but I would believe the 5.1 choice informed how those two were developed. Theoretically there could have been a different version, but since more players sided with Anogg over Konogg (in general) what happened... happened.
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    Some very random Bozja NPC musings

    The field notes on Fabineau quo Soranus state that he isn't related to Sartauvoir quo Soranus, it apparently is a common name in Mannatheihwo. So, does that mean that Julia and Annia are from Mannatheihwo as well, seeing as they are called quo Soranus as well? That might imply that they aren't just using Elezen bones, but are actual Elezen from a Garlean province that made it to bodyguards of the Emperor.

    .... I really just wanna know more about Julia and Annia, seeing as the Tactics theories were a red herring.
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    I'm taking Lore way too seriously. And I'm not sorry about that.

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