So, new hair coming out... Just...

[Yandere-chan]

That quote doesn't read like they are actually actively working on hairs to me. Just that we would get hairs sooner or later.

Yeah, for sure. A vague comment in response to a question an interviewer happened to ask almost 2 years later isn't exactly the type of transparency we are looking for on this matter.

Lissen I get what you are saying, and I understand your are frustrated. I'm just underlining that the word Racism is very heavy. People get insulted, suffer from physical aggression and even die everyday just because they have different skin tone.
And I think its a bit too much saying SE and Yoshi P are racist. Call them Bunnyphobic, perhaps is better word with no heavy and real meaning attached to it!

I don't want to keep speaking about this, cuz I don't to bring politics to this thread or forum.
But please think about it!

Other than that I do agree with you! Let's keep making noise, let keep creating new threads every time a new hair is released and they are not available for us!!

I don't agree with you on the initial topic. We aren't a community of children. The very game addresses matters of genocide and murder, two of the most heavy actions that can occur in our reality. The lion's share of us aren't going to crumble at the mere mention of a word being used to the point of not even being able to assess its context. Also, I did not say that SE or Yoshi P are racist in general as if it's some sort of status aliment a person or entity can be afflicted with. I am being literal that the action is racist against the race of Viera in regard to excluding them for content every other race (minus Hroth) are getting for their hair continuously for two years now. Even for hairs made post their release.

Ultimately, context to words matter when assessing their meaning and that applies equally even to words such as racism. The people of this community are more than mentally capable of making such distinctions. Those complaining and being upset have shown failure on their part to reasonably assess the accurate use of my word use and I would go as far to say that such people are even being overly sensitive in regard to its usage. Thus, I find the fault on them rather than on myself, as the usage of my word is correct in context. I don't even think it's a matter of politics in that regard.

And yes, other than that I am in full agreement. It's to the issue's benefit to have this topic discussed with a new thread each time it arises. And, since it is often brought up, I also think it's great to talk about it in the megathread. Both together will help maximize awareness of the issue. I suppose one could go even a step forward and email Square about it as well. All of which has my support. Differences of opinion on various other things aside, I think it's good that we can come together on this issue finally being addressed and talked about from the FFXIV team. It's something worth continually pushing for until a real plan to address it is talked about and comes to fruition. It's more than reasonable, especially at this point in time.

First of all, you are exaggerating because you are trying to label "racism" on something they already announced before they release the race.
Secondly, modders can alter the the model because those files stay in their own computer (client) instead of sending that information to FF14 server. You don't even have a clue on what you are talking about. If server refuse just even on slight error to the client, client will crash. It is not that easy.
Third, you have no clue how Japanese or any asian company operates. They don't have the luxury just hire/fire freely as US company (who usually is ruthless). If they are hiring someone, it must be talented and undergoes series of training because company is going to think this employ with stay with them as their career. They also don't pay garbage like black hearted Blizzard, it is not that simple

Conclusion? Stop whining and just wait. They did follow through with male Viera and they definitely will get back to the head skeleton part of Viera when they have time.

I'm not "trying," I am correctly stating what it is. To continuously exclude the Viera race of hairstyles when all the other races in the game get them is literally an instance of racist action. It's not nearly as unfair as if it was racism towards the races of real people, obviously, but no one has stated that. So, no, it's not an overexaggeration. You are just being overly sensitive to the word because you are caught up in the sensationalism around the term and desperately want to defend Square. It is a correct usage of the word racist to describe an act of exclusion targeted towards a race in a game though.

What are you even saying? There is no difference between what file structure the vanilla game uses vs. a modded game. The files are merely swapped out when you mod. The vanilla models being updated merely changes what those vanilla models are. Are you trying to imply that if a hair is out of place it's going to cause the game to crash? It might cause a bit of clipping, but no, what you describe isn't even somewhat sensible in the slightest. You literally just proved to anyone with any know how of the game that you are the one who has no idea what you are talking about, but that you are pretending that you do because you are just that much of a brownnose. Thanks for proving that point further for me.

Japanese companies outsource, what are you talking about? I don't understand this mindset of just making things up to desperately defend a corporation of all things.

Conclusion? No, I can complain as much as I want, as can anyone else, so long as we do so within the forum rules. You're just going to have to deal with it. If anything, you are the one who isn't at all being constructive and literally just making things up to desperately to defend a corp. I can't believe you actually thought that would accomplish anything.

I'm not wholly sure how locking an entire race out of using optional hairstyles (some of which are only obtainable via the FFXIV Store...for cash) is SE being "greedy".

Like, fundamentally, they want the races to have access to all the hair, because you're more likely to spend money on the cash shop if you have access to all the hair on your character. The more you like your character, the more likely you are to spend money on them.

Because it isn't just locking people out of hairstyles. It's avoiding putting the effort, resources and time into creating a plan, allocating budget, or seeking an outsource option (if necessary) to accomplish the goal. There's an obvious benefit, of course, to doing it, but they clearly didn't want to invest what was necessary to accomplish it, else it would have been completed within a 2 year window. They clearly didn't think the return was worth it and that it was more worthwhile to shaft those who are drawn to play the race of Viera. Us who complain and are disgruntled by their choice is the fallout from that.

[Divinemights]

Because it isn't just locking people out of hairstyles. It's avoiding putting the effort, resources and time into creating a plan, allocating budget, or seeking an outsource option (if necessary) to accomplish the goal. There's an obvious benefit, of course, to doing it, but they clearly didn't want to invest what was necessary to accomplish it, else it would have been completed within a 2 year window. They clearly didn't think the return was worth it and that it was more worthwhile to shaft those who are drawn to play the race of Viera. Us who complain and are disgruntled by their choice is the fallout from that.

Exactly, same old boring repetitive useless thread because you didn’t get what you want. The only difference is you act as worst of d them all as you are also defamation

They already stated female hrothgat is next, you can keep you pointless whining

[Yencat]

Exactly, same old boring repetitive useless thread because you didn’t get what you want. The only difference is you act as worst of d them all as you are also defamation

They already stated female hrothgat is next, you can keep you pointless whining

And when male Viera and female Hrothgar are out and they still haven't done anything the threads are going to keep coming.

So you'll just have to deal with the pointless whining.

[Divinemights]

And when male Viera and female Hrothgar are out and they still haven't done anything the threads are going to keep coming.

So you'll just have to deal with the pointless whining.

Then go post in mega thread if that is the option you want to take.
You will get response from the same audience; you dont see me posting there
What do you expect when random people making thread here and there whining about same thing?

[Yencat]

Then go post in mega thread if that is the option you want to take.
You will get response from the same audience; you dont see me posting there
What do you expect when random people making thread here and there whining about same thing?

I'm not expecting anything, but it's not like you can stop people from making threads you don't like so you're just gonna have to deal with it or ignore it.

Besides, it's the General Discussion forums, we're not exactly scribbling on the Dead Sea scrolls here. It's really not that deep.

[TroySoFab]

Because Square is greedy and racist

just to increase the number of people they will racially exclude

This is not a status quo we should tolerate any longer. We have clearly waited long enough.

Those are some pretty strong words to describe a lack of hairstyles on your bunny girl.

[Yandere-chan]

Those are some pretty strong words to describe a lack of hairstyles on your bunny girl.

You mean a lack of an address for nearly 2 years with no actual discussion or communication, not even at fanfest, and having to re-experience it with every new hair that is released? The words aren't too strong, nor too weak, but accurate. Viera are a game race, to exclude them as a race is racist in context to content exclusion, thus I use the word racist to describe the action of doing so because it's correct to do so, which is plain to see in the full context of my posts. It's not my problem if some people lose all composure and sense at the word because of being too caught up in sensationalism around the adjective (or just purposely attempting to derail and fish for clout...). Context matters, and that you have to remove context from my posts to try to make a faulty point tells me that you have no intention of having legitimate discussion of the actual topic of the thread. Which, if that's the case, make your own topic, by all means.

[TroySoFab]

You mean a lack of an address for nearly 2 years with no actual discussion or communication, not even at fanfest, and having to re-experience it with every new hair that is released? The words aren't too strong, nor too weak, but accurate. Viera are a game race, to exclude them as a race is racist in context to content exclusion, thus I use the word racist to describe the action of doing so because it's correct to do so, which is plain to see in the full context of my posts. It's not my problem if some people lose all composure and sense at the word because of being too caught up in sensationalism around the adjective (or just purposely attempting to derail and fish for clout...). Context matters, and that you have to remove context from my posts to try to make a faulty point tells me that you have no intention of having legitimate discussion of the actual topic of the thread. Which, if that's the case, make your own topic, by all means.

Yeah... You either don't know what racism is, or you are just temper tantrum trolling.

[lalin]

i am going to speculate we will never get new hairstyles .. maybe 1 or 2 over the upcoming 2-3 years , why? because as someone said (jokingly) which now i believe to be true they don't want Viera to become the most popular race now with male Viera added ,. why ? because when someone google ffxiv the first thing they see are pictures of miqos and lalafells so they are the face of ffxiv? viera were suppose to be a fan requested race only .
if you say lalafells are not that popular in the west they are extremely popular on Japanese servers .

[NealSnow]

I mean with them working on male viera and hrothgals? You ain't likely seeing new hairs for a while for either since they already stressed that just doing male viera was only by working super hard as is, and once they are out they will likely be using any extra time to then work on the hrothgals.

So yeah.