Garuda Weapons are weaker than Mog!!

[Lux_Rayna]

Read this that cry hit power on garuda claws wont help -.- http://kanican.livejournal.com/56489.html

Did you actually read that all the way through. I see tables that directly prove even a +40 crit attack power can increase the damage on your crits >_> and they didnt even test the numers beyond +70. Imagine if you were specced for crit attack power + whatever you got from Garuda? This is what I mean by faulty test analysis. The only ppl that seem to know what the test means are the testers. Everyone else draws all these erroneous assumptions based on limited tests.

You seriously took a test that kinda explored the potential for crit potency/crit attack power...showed positive results that differed depending on dlvl between mob and player, and despite the positive results you conclude something to the effect of: "it is useless". How you get this conclusion from this test I have no idea, cuz I read it and saw potential.

Even +40 had a noticeable increase...imagine if you had +70, or +200. Theoretically you could hit the crit dmg cap, whatever that is. According to this test its a 20% increase in crit damage if you have +200 crit attack power. I'll take a good 20% more dmg off a crit..yes please.

Against L45 enemies your crit rate increases by ~1% for every +30 Crit Rate you have and the base crit rate is ~11%. Against higher level enemies it's lower and it is also assumed the potency of +Crit Rate goes down as dLevel increases. Crit rate is capped at 20%.

This means adding +Crit Rate is very inefficient as far as the rate of criticals goes.

I realize this. However, what ppl fail to take into account, is that some classes (drg says hi) have skills that increase their critical rate. So if you combine those skills with gear that increases your critcal rate, and increase your crit attack power, you can be more efficient. This is not even factoring in things like traits and the like. This is what I mean by think outside the box. Ppl forget about a lot of game mechanics as soon as someone produces a test that is necessarily limited in scope. Take a DRG with one optimized build...take a DRG with another optimized build, compare the two. *That* is a test you can draw the kind of conclusions you are trying to draw about Garuda weapons.

To clarify, I am no debating the results of anyone's test. You can't debate numbers, thats just stupid. I am debating the conclusions you are trying to draw from the test, precisely because you are taking a test out of context and trying to apply it to new information and new potential setups. You need to actually *test* these setups before you can conclude anything about what you are trying to conclude. Thats really just the bottom line. There's not much room for argument here. We can speculate all we want, but the fact of the matter is there is no test to prove any of it yet.