Garuda Weapons are weaker than Mog!!

[Velhart]

Math, also please stop trolling.

Unless you are bringing in hard data, you are only letting your ass speak on your behalf. Don't tell someone they are wrong without proving it.

What about the new crafted weapons? For example
Sarnga (Bow)
Damage 106
Delay 4.1
Projectile 100%
Dexterity+7
Piety+7

Base damage is higher than Ifrit's. It is also meldable.

It is also for ARC only.

[Lux_Rayna]

Since when does delay affect damage, crit damage, etc?

Since we're being real here...

Do I really need to explain the relation between dps and dph? They are equals. Delay means you deal damage more often, thus making up for dealing less damage per hit. You do less damage for higher frequency. Or you can do more damage for lower frequency. If you average the two, assuming the weapons are equal, the overall damage would be the same over a given length of time.

In Garuda's case, it actually deals more damage over a given length of time in terms of raw damage output. This does not factor in criticals/weaponskills/attack power/accuracy/crit attack power etc etc.

If you look at Ifrit weapons, and look at Garuda weapons...they balance out. Ifrit, for example has no accuracy on the harpoon..but it has 30 attack power. Garuda has a whopping 25 acc, so it will hit more often (as in less misses) than ifrit. But wait, there's more. Garuda has a bonus to crit attack power, which means its criticals will do more proportional damage than Ifrit's weapon's criticals. If you factor in *everything*, its pretty easy to conclude they are equals...or at least very very close, and that Garuda weapons are not trash as some troll was trying to say.

[Firon]

Those garuda weps for mnk will not be better for mnk if that was the case you could out dps ifrit claws with the honeyclaws from last patch. If ws didn't have timers on them then we could have an argument but in this case we don't.

[Treach]

You guys wouldn't believe the math even if it was explained to you lol, the troll is strong here. Also closing this topic as this really doesn't matter to me what you guys think and I don't need another 3hr ban.

[Starfall]

Unless you are bringing in hard data, you are only letting your ass speak on your behalf. Don't tell someone they are wrong without proving it.



It is also for ARC only.

Bah.. missed the "ARC only".. this makes me sad

[Lux_Rayna]

You guys wouldn't believe the math even if it was explained to you lol, the troll is strong here.

Lol except, there is no math for these Garuda weapons. Now who is trolling?

[Jinko]

Those garuda weps for mnk will not be better for mnk if that was the case you could out dps ifrit claws with the honeyclaws from last patch. If ws didn't have timers on them then we could have an argument but in this case we don't.

Not even if you are attacking from behind > blindside > increased crit attack power ?

[Firon]

You guys wouldn't believe the math even if it was explained to you lol, the troll is strong here.

Anyone that uses ifrit weps enough know they beat everything atm =/ those new gc weps might be a good alternative with the good base dmg and those sanction buffs.

[Rydin]

Anyone that uses ifrit weps enough know they beat everything atm =/ those new gc weps might be a good alternative with the good base dmg and those sanction buffs.

A very good point

[Firon]

Not even if you are attacking from behind > blindside > increased crit attack power ?

No ifrit weps are better all around don't matter. Lets say you do 1.4k howling fist normally with ifrit claws. Use garuda claws and only getting 1.2k even with the crt attack power + 40. Even when i had Cobalt claws + 1 and over 80+ crt attack power on a body piece still couldn't out dps ifrit claws.