Garuda Weapons are weaker than Mog!!

[Lux_Rayna]

Someone send out the bat signal for kaeko so he can explain again for like the 100th time why base damage is more important then delay.

Correct me if im wrong, but we've never had weapons with a delay this low so....any prior research is rendered invalid in light of the fact the game has just changed.

I suggest you learn to accept this.

[Kiroh]

Correct me if im wrong, but we've never had weapons with a delay this low so....any prior research is rendered invalid in light of the fact the game has just changed.

I suggest you learn to accept this.

"Delay makes no difference when compared to base damage."

"But dis delay is lower den all da udderz."

[Lux_Rayna]

"Delay makes no difference when compared to base damage."

"But dis delay is lower den all da udderz."

Herp derp

+10 int makes no difference

Owait I guess +50 int doesn't either.

That was the train of logic you just used, cmon son lol...let's be smart.

Math, also please stop trolling.

LOL you have no math for these weapons! Seriously, you have no math to begin with. Hot air over stuff you haven't even used, parsed, or tested.

[Kiroh]

Herp derp

+10 int makes no difference

Owait I guess +50 int doesn't either.

That was the train of logic you just used, cmon son lol...let's be smart.

Since when does delay affect damage, crit damage, etc?

Since we're being real here...

[Jinko]

Since when does delay affect damage, crit damage, etc?

Since we're being real here...

What the hell does that have to with AA DPS ?

And the fact that Garuda weapon have + Crit attack power would suggest it makes a difference, its impossible to sit here and say how much though without using a parser and many many fights.

Just looking at it I would say they are fairly comparable and not anywhere near enough to be getting worried about it.

[Kiroh]

What the hell does that have to with AA DPS ?

And the fact that Garuda weapon have + Crit attack power would suggest it makes a difference, its impossible to sit here and say how much though without using a parser and many many fights.

Since when does INT affect AA DPS? =o

[Jinko]

Since when does INT affect AA DPS? =o

PGL/MNK ?

[AlphaDragoon]

Since when does delay affect damage, crit damage, etc?

Since we're being real here...

Delay may not affect damage, but that "CRITICAL ATTACK POWER +40" stat might.

[Lux_Rayna]

Since when does delay affect damage, crit damage, etc?

Since we're being real here...

Do I really need to explain the relation between dps and dph? They are equals. Delay means you deal damage more often, thus making up for dealing less damage per hit. You do less damage for higher frequency. Or you can do more damage for lower frequency. If you average the two, assuming the weapons are equal, the overall damage would be the same over a given length of time.

In Garuda's case, it actually deals more damage over a given length of time in terms of raw damage output. This does not factor in criticals/weaponskills/attack power/accuracy/crit attack power etc etc.

If you look at Ifrit weapons, and look at Garuda weapons...they balance out. Ifrit, for example has no accuracy on the harpoon..but it has 30 attack power. Garuda has a whopping 25 acc, so it will hit more often (as in less misses) than ifrit. But wait, there's more. Garuda has a bonus to crit attack power, which means its criticals will do more proportional damage than Ifrit's weapon's criticals. If you factor in *everything*, its pretty easy to conclude they are equals...or at least very very close, and that Garuda weapons are not trash as some troll was trying to say.

[Starfall]

What about the new crafted weapons? For example
Sarnga (Bow)
Damage 106
Delay 4.1
Projectile 100%
Dexterity+7
Piety+7

Base damage is higher than Ifrit's. It is also meldable.