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    Frein's Avatar
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    Frein Mannis
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Lux_Rayna View Post
    I'll repeat: dev team knows more than you do. Do you really think Garuda weapons would be unquestionably inferior to Ifrit weapons? There's more than one way to play. Damage per hit is the not the only way. Try testing first with different setups and then come to that conclusion. Until then its the usual hot air that blows around on forums because players think themselves smarter than the development team.
    I'll take this bet any day of the week. The only thing, as far as I can see, that could save the Garuda weapons is if the wind damage proc is insane. You have far too much faith in the dev team always knowing what they're doing. Here's a pro tip: They don't.
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    Chinook Sirocco
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    You can't really WS more with a good rotation because of timers on most DoW jobs, so that doesn't make up for lower damage rating despite better DPS that doesn't take weaponskills into account.
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    Treach O-o
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    Malboro
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    arc/brd got shafted hard on garuda weapons lol, dunno why other jobs only lose a little base damage compared to ifrits but they lose 31 base damage.
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    Rauban Daz
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    Fisher Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Treach View Post
    arc/brd got shafted hard on garuda weapons lol, dunno why other jobs only lose a little base damage compared to ifrits but they lose 31 base damage.
    Cuz they have arrows
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    Treach O-o
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raubahn View Post
    Cuz they have arrows
    Ifrits bow 102 base damage, garudas bow 71 base damage.

    Arrows work for both bows.

    herpaderp.
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    Rauban Daz
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    Omega
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    Fisher Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Treach View Post
    Ifrits bow 102 base damage, garudas bow 71 base damage.

    Arrows work for both bows.

    herpaderp.
    Grrr u got me :P
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    Aluena Mahri
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Treach View Post
    Ifrits bow 102 base damage, garudas bow 71 base damage.

    Arrows work for both bows.

    herpaderp.
    using cobalt arrows (56 Damage) for the DPS calculation, (based on patch notes):

    Mischievous Mogbow: (100+56)/4.2=37DPS
    156/4.2
    37.14
    Ifrit's Bow: (102+56)/4.3 = 37DPS
    158/4.3
    36.74
    Guarda's Spine: (71+56)/3.1=41DPS
    127/3.1
    40.96
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    Last edited by Kayokane; 04-26-2012 at 10:42 AM. Reason: wrong dmg for cobalt arrows

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kayokane View Post
    using cobalt arrows (48 Damage) for the DPS calculation, (based on patch notes):

    Mischievous Mogbow: (100+48)/4.2=35DPS
    148/4.2
    35.23
    Ifrit's Bow: (102+48)/4.3 = 35DPS
    150/4.3
    34.88
    Guarda's Spine: (71+48)/3.1=38DPS
    119/3.1
    38.38
    Problem is that archer does not have auto-attack so you rarely actually attack at that rate (and it will cost more arrows per unit of damage lol)

    Anyway, regardless of stats, the idea behind is also to give a "personality" to those different weapons, which corresponds to the primal we get them from. This includes look, different stats bonus, and different trade-offs.

    It totally makes sense that Garuda weapons are quicker and have higher DPS, but the trade-off is lower WS damage. It remains to be seen what the overall damage will be, but the primal weapons were presumably designed to be overall nearly equally strong.
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    Mister Phro
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    Culinarian Lv 50
    garuda better hurrrrrrrr
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    Your seed makes you strong.

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    Rauban Daz
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    Keep in mind that i dont intend to Disgrace Garuda weapons i only put "Garuda Weapons are weaker than mogs" cuz i want to get ur attention
    Have fun and btw
    thous Hippogryph Equipments Are Smexy!!
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