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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    lower delay weapons also wield lower tp per hit. It should equal to about the same.
    That it does, though theoretically if the delay was low enough you could auto attack between weapon skills adding to your overall dps. But then again this is all theorymon, point is its equal to ifrit but a different style. It emphasizes speed and criticals over raw damage per hit.
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    Seeing as how Yoshi mentioned they were going to beef up drg's crit attack power soon, I may stick with my Garuda Beak. It looks lovely anyway
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    Retired FFXI character: Ranok of Sylph

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    Soube Miseux
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    Well, at least we can all agree they beat the moogle weapons. =p
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    The damage stat of the weapon also determines your attribute caps, so these looks like garbage, to be honest. The faster attack rate doesn't give more TP and it definitely hurts your WS damage a ton. Besides, even if they were TP building machines, cooldowns on your most powerful WS means you may not get as much out of them as you'd like.

    Also, I find it hilarious that they still haven't put any healing related stats on a CNJ/WHM primal drop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frein View Post
    Also, I find it hilarious that they still haven't put any healing related stats on a CNJ/WHM primal drop.
    Yea I was disappointed with this, CNJ weapon just looks like another trophy .. I mean Wind potency .. I think someone forget to tell SE CNJ/WHM is a healer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    damage on that wep is still to low mnk never runs out of tp as is spinning heel and invig is enough.
    Fair enough lets see what you get on the parser
    Lets hope it don't take as long for you to get Garuda Fist though or we could be waiting a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Yea I was disappointed with this, CNJ weapon just looks like another trophy .. I mean Wind potency .. I think someone forget to tell SE CNJ/WHM is a healer.



    Fair enough lets see what you get on the parser
    Lets hope it don't take as long for you to get Garuda Fist though or we could be waiting a while.
    well based on BG drops (everyone got 2 tokens for 1 kill) it will take 20 wins just to buy a weapon unless they just got really lucky and everyone just so happened to get 2 tokens for that run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frein View Post
    The damage stat of the weapon also determines your attribute caps, so these looks like garbage, to be honest. The faster attack rate doesn't give more TP and it definitely hurts your WS damage a ton. Besides, even if they were TP building machines, cooldowns on your most powerful WS means you may not get as much out of them as you'd like.
    I'm going the wager the dev team knows more than you do, and thus they aren't garbage as compared to other options. Thats just a wager though, feel free to disagree with my theory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lux_Rayna View Post
    I'm going the wager the dev team knows more than you do, and thus they aren't garbage as compared to other options. Thats just a wager though, feel free to disagree with my theory.
    Frein is actually right though, no need to wager.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treach View Post
    Frein is actually right though, no need to wager.
    And you know this how? I'm assuming you parsed Garuda weapons with appropriate equipment. Oh you haven't? Lol.

    I'll repeat: dev team knows more than you do. Do you really think Garuda weapons would be unquestionably inferior to Ifrit weapons? There's more than one way to play. Damage per hit is the not the only way. Try testing first with different setups and then come to that conclusion. Until then its the usual hot air that blows around on forums because players think themselves smarter than the development team.
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    Last edited by Lux_Rayna; 04-26-2012 at 10:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lux_Rayna View Post
    And you know this how? I'm assuming your parsed Garuda weapons with appropriate equipment. Oh you haven't? Lol.

    I'll repeat: dev team knows more than you do. Do you really think Garuda weapons would be unquestionably inferior to Ifrit weapons? There's more than one way to play. Damage per hit is the not the only way. Try testing first with different setups and then come to that conclusion. Until then its the usual hot air that blows around on forums because players think themselves smarter than the development team.
    Math is hard I hear, not going to argue with you cause I've seen the things you post, no common sense at all.
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