How about some

[Alerith]

And heres a question.

If they are going to try and make this game more appealing to more north american players wouldn't they try to cater to them SOME WHAT? how the heck is having the maint earlier by 2 hours going to effect the japanese that dang much? ARE YOU THAT THICK?

Continuing with the "Are you that thick" questions:

How is having the maintenance two hours later affecting NA players "that dang much"? It's the exact same standard. Not to mention the Japanese and American time zones aren't the only ones affected by shifting maintenance times.

It's like if a game was American run. You would expect them to do maintenance during their hours. Not conform to Japanese standard time or any EU timezone.

[Lux_Rayna]

How about some updates that are NOT during American play times? I dont remember an update that wasnt around 2pm-8pm PST. I do understand that you need someone at the servers to impliment the update, but havent you guys heard of night shift?

Majority of working class America works 9-5. Sometimes 10-4. Sometimes 8-3. But generally speaking, 2-5 is not playtime for working adults.

Now there will always be night shifters, and graveyard shifters, but why expect the world to conform to your odd hours? Gotta please the majority.

[CocidiusEratos]

Majority of working class America works 9-5. Sometimes 10-4. Sometimes 8-3. But generally speaking, 2-5 is not playtime for working adults.

Now there will always be night shifters, and graveyard shifters, but why expect the world to conform to your odd hours? Gotta please the majority.

LMAO, Ok so the post said 2-8 PST which is 5-11 EST so,...................

[ChickNorris]

Or you could just....you know...not play for an evening... /ducks

Additionally, the patch finishes at 11am JST. When most people are at work. I have several friends who will not be doing the patch download til they get home. Let alone experience the content as soon as it is available....you know....like the NAs.

And you don't even mention the EUs where it will be like 3-5am (depending on location) when the patch will be finished. Again, they would have to wait to download patch and wake up early or stay up all night to play new content.

Suddenly, having to do something else aside from play the game for a couple hours one night doesn't seem too much to ask.

[Vonleo]

Or you could just....you know...not play for an evening... /ducks

Additionally, the patch finishes at 11am JST. When most people are at work. I have several friends who will not be doing the patch download til they get home. Let alone experience the content as soon as it is available....you know....like the NAs.

And you don't even mention the EUs where it will be like 3-5am (depending on location) when the patch will be finished. Again, they would have to wait to download patch and wake up early or stay up all night to play new content.

Suddenly, having to do something else aside from play the game for a couple hours one night doesn't seem too much to ask.

You have a fair point but that could also be said for everyone in each time zone correct? i mean we basically get screwed hardcore.

[Enfarious]

Or you could just....you know...not play for an evening... /ducks

Additionally, the patch finishes at 11am JST. When most people are at work. I have several friends who will not be doing the patch download til they get home. Let alone experience the content as soon as it is available....you know....like the NAs.

And you don't even mention the EUs where it will be like 3-5am (depending on location) when the patch will be finished. Again, they would have to wait to download patch and wake up early or stay up all night to play new content.

Suddenly, having to do something else aside from play the game for a couple hours one night doesn't seem too much to ask.

There's actually some significant benefits to being JST for most of these updates. Most notably the first few hours where the bugs/possible crashes and quick fixes will all happen during that few hours when NA players are playing. So by the time JST players get on there's been 6 hours of hotfixes in place so they get a smoothly running game.

Don't yell at me yet, check the past update and hotfix notes, they're almost always within 2~4 hours of a major update for an all worlds emergency maint. that lasts another 2 hrs

[ChickNorris]

There's actually some significant benefits to being JST for most of these updates. Most notably the first few hours where the bugs/possible crashes and quick fixes will all happen during that few hours when NA players are playing. So by the time JST players get on there's been 6 hours of hotfixes in place so they get a smoothly running game.

Don't yell at me yet, check the past update and hotfix notes, they're almost always within 2~4 hours of a major update for an all worlds emergency maint. that lasts another 2 hrs

hehe, why on earth would I yell at you? Additionally, I am not going to check this, I honestly don't care. There is not a single situation that anyone can post that will make me have an empathetic response to having/not having a video game available.

[Vonleo]

hehe, why on earth would I yell at you? Additionally, I am not going to check this, I honestly don't care. There is not a single situation that anyone can post that will make me have an empathetic response to having/not having a video game available.

edited dont care anymore lol

[Enfarious]

hehe, why on earth would I yell at you? Additionally, I am not going to check this, I honestly don't care. There is not a single situation that anyone can post that will make me have an empathetic response to having/not having a video game available.

I actually didn't mean you specifically I was mostly just using what you said as a leapfrogging point, sorry if it sounded more directed than that.

Fair enough on the no empathy though, I don't feel crazy hurt by when the maintenance happens, I would like to see it roll around the clock though to be more "all time zones" friendly, as I said in another post somewhere in page 2 of the thread, I'm not looking for it.

[Enfarious]

Can't we all just get along?
Rolling hour updates: update 1@00GMT 2@04GMT 3@08GMT 4@12GMT 5@16GMT 6@20GMT and bam we all get screwed by an update here and there, but we also all get not screwed here and there.

The game was built with a worldwide audience in mind. It's solutions that fuck everyone equally that work in that audience.

Edit: I'm EST and work 8A~5P, chances are that I'll get to log in for ~30 mins after the maint. period I've yet to cry about it or about any of the others that have happened in a way to ensure I missed out on a solid day of play and got into new content later than others.