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  1. #21
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    This is also what I expected. Surely could've built a non-ranged dancer... but alas.
    I don't see any reason why dancer couldn't have been exactly as it is now and still be given scouting gear. Throwing chakrams is a totally different kind of "aiming" to shooting projectiles, and ninja throws bladed weapons too - not as the core of their skillset but part of it nevertheless.
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  2. #22
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I don't see any reason why dancer couldn't have been exactly as it is now and still be given scouting gear. Throwing chakrams is a totally different kind of "aiming" to shooting projectiles, and ninja throws bladed weapons too - not as the core of their skillset but part of it nevertheless.
    Eh, just the point that it's not just simply DPS, it's physical ranged DPS. As such, it was only natural to dump it in with the other physical ranged jobs. In order to fit in with Ninja, I'd expect any job will have to fit the niche of "physical melee DPS."

    You're not wrong from an aesthetic standpoint. But from a game code view, I'd expect it has to be this way. They designed Dancer as ranged, so it has to share ranged gear.
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  3. #23
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    Riko Futatabi
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    Excalibur
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    They haven't added any pet jobs in a long while now, I personally don't like pet jobs in XIV and maybe the Devs also aren't a fan lol. But the "Scouting" gear feels like a good fit for a Beastmaster.
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    Lilac Blackthorne
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    Rogue shares gear with ninja. You did ask class and not job.
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    But from a game code view, I'd expect it has to be this way. They designed Dancer as ranged, so it has to share ranged gear.
    No, it doesn't have to be this way. The DNC flag could have been added to all the scouting equipment rather than the aiming equipment if they had wanted it. Easily.
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    Last edited by Rongway; 05-25-2021 at 06:07 PM.
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Eh, just the point that it's not just simply DPS, it's physical ranged DPS. As such, it was only natural to dump it in with the other physical ranged jobs. In order to fit in with Ninja, I'd expect any job will have to fit the niche of "physical melee DPS."

    You're not wrong from an aesthetic standpoint. But from a game code view, I'd expect it has to be this way. They designed Dancer as ranged, so it has to share ranged gear.
    I doubt it has anything to do with the code.
    Ninja uses aiming accessories, so there's overlap between the two roles in that sense already.

    It's most likely a design choice, and respecting that people tend to 'main' roles, some main healer or tank, some main Physical Ranged DPS. So those phys ranged mains will want to be able to gear up all three phys ranged jobs at once.

    Obviously melee DPS are a clear outlier here already, and an exception to that mindset, but that's precisely why they looked at adding a maiming job to share with DRG, and probably consider NIN to already be a bit of a hybrid due to the aiming accessories.
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  7. #27
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    ...and probably consider NIN to already be a bit of a hybrid due to the aiming accessories.
    That doesn't do anything for gear distribution though. Dancer would have gotten aiming accessories whether it was assigned to aiming or scouting gear. If anything it further acknowledges that there's a bridge between the DEX-based classes and dancer could have taken the other gear type without it being too remarkable.

    Maiming/striking share accessories too, that get their own fancy "slaying" type instead of borrowing the name of one of the two roles that share them.
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Corsair, Beastmaster.

    Any dexterity based class honestly.
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  9. #29
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    I agree with a Pirate gambler of some sort. Dual wield sabers. DK melee combo. Jump out to dual wield pistols from ranged for second combo. Like a reverse red mage.

    Build up momentum to roll your dice like Setzer, have the different effects be support based for the party, kinda like what Dancer does. I dunno, I just like the idea of wielding swords, guns, and rolling the dice. Maybe some sort of slot machine mechanic.
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Coming to think about it... What exactly diferentiates the Scouting from the Aiming items? It can't be stat allocation because everyone goes for Crit>Det=DH. No wonder why the accessories are shared to begin with.

    I wonder if wouldn't be something feasible to just merge the two of them into a same category.

    And on the plus side, NIN, DNC, BRD and MCH would also benefit cosmetically from a slightly broader glam range.
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