Fire II

[ReiMakoto]

Fine Ill take the bait.


The general consensus was that Machinst was the worse physical ranged DD in 4.0. Damage ceiling was lower and required more effort to play effectively compared to Bard. Its cumbersome implementation of resources and abilities is one of the reasons. It also offered none of the utility that Bard did. In this sense, the analogy is that MCH is a strictly worse version of bard. It was my "button" that I enjoyed playing and had fun with even though bard was superior to it.

I get it though. Critical thinking isn't many peoples strong suit.

Oh so you were making a complete tangent not relevant to the discussion, cool. We were talking about the balance of black mage and the fact that it contains buttons within its own kit which are sub optimal to press and dont contribute to blms playstyle so pressing them is objectively bad. Your comparison of mch being a "bad button" when compared to bard doesnt logically track as as bawked as SB machinist was, its buttons all contributed to its kit, and for better or worse it was mostly balanced by the end (first ultimate clears used mch). Saying picking MCH over brd in SB is equivalent to a BLM choosing to use fire 2 is such mental gymnastics im not sure how anyone was supposed to dissect your thinking. This is not even getting into flavour/taste arguments.

To simplify further:
SB MCH:
Viable, Different Playstyle, More optimal than BRD in certain non-meta comps, dismantles lower CD and more immediate usefulness made it better defensive utility than troub at times

Fire 2:
Objectively Terrible beyond a certain level, Actively trolling your party/limiting effectiveness to use.