Fire II

[Anhra]

My impression from this thread is that you guys aren't really black mages. You're all really Calculators masquerading as black mages.

I assume that if people are bad enough at video games, they have to cling to things like this to at least even things out a little.

Fire II is a DPS loss. It is better to just spam flare(using it to go from UI back to AF). Fire II is basically never useful at any level which is the problem.

DPS loss or not, it has a actual use and a solid place in a working rotation. I dont care if my not so optimal rotation makes you stay 0.05seconds longer in Dungeons or Raids, as long as it gets results, it works for me.

[Katie_Kitty]

I assume that if people are bad enough at video games, they have to cling to things like this to at least even things out a little.




DPS loss or not, it has a actual use and a solid place in a working rotation. I dont care if my not so optimal rotation makes you stay 0.05seconds longer in Dungeons or Raids, as long as it gets results, it works for me.

No offense, but I don't really understand where you get off accusing others of being bad at video games? I've noticed a lot that people who don't even raid have a tendency on these forums to attack people who have a demonstrable history of competence in gameplay. You yourself state that you know you are performing the wrong rotation, so where is this haughty confidence coming from?

[Anhra]

As long as the end result ends in being victorious, it doesn't matter if you perform your rotation or overall gameplay perfectly to the T. Things either work, or they don't, it is as simple as that and the rotation i mentioned earlier might not be perfect, but it is indeed working, maybe just try queuing for expert roulette or some dungeon and try it out yourself, maybe trying it out might give you another impression on what i mean.

No offense, but I don't really understand where you get off accusing others of being bad at video games?

If you only follow the Path of least resistance for the sake of comfort, it shows to me that this person doesn't like dealing with tough situations and will under normal circumstances, not be a realiable person to carry out critical tasks in a newfound situation. That's why i see those kind of people as bad players. But that's just my two cents on the matter.

[Katie_Kitty]

As long as the end result ends in being victorious, it doesn't matter if you perform your rotation or overall gameplay perfectly to the T. Things either work, or they don't, it is as simple as that and the rotation i mentioned earlier might not be perfect, but it is indeed working, maybe just try queuing for expert roulette or some dungeon and try it out yourself, maybe trying it out might give you another impression on what i mean.



If you only follow the Path of least resistance for the sake of comfort, it shows to me that this person doesn't like dealing with tough situations and will under normal circumstances, not be a realiable person to carry out critical tasks in a newfound situation. That's why i see those kind of people as bad players. But that's just my two cents on the matter.

This is some truly head-scratching stuff. What tough situations in-game have you been in where you successfully carried out critical tasks in newfound situations, and what about those scenarios makes you think people who perform their correct rotation wouldn't be able to do that?

I would argue that the vast majority of people who actively raid in this game could likely be trusted more with such a thing. Are you sure you're not just rationalizing your fire 2 usage after the fact?

[Zantusken]

This is some truly head-scratching stuff. What tough situations in-game have you been in where you successfully carried out critical tasks in newfound situations, and what about those scenarios makes you think people who perform their correct rotation wouldn't be able to do that?

I would argue that the vast majority of people who actively raid in this game could likely be trusted more with such a thing. Are you sure you're not just rationalizing your fire 2 usage after the fact?

Yeah I give up, there's no logic to be found here

[Katie_Kitty]

The problem is Freeze only gives you one Umbral heart, meaning if you use Fire 2 you can't do 2 Flares. Fire II is so much weaker than Flare so I personally don't see the fun in that.

As I said you can do what you want, but you're really going to intentionally gimp yourself and then call people who don't bad...?

fire 2 isn't even fun to use. Fire 2 stinks. It's slow, expensive, and weak. And boring. Even freeze spam is more satisfying.

[Zantusken]

fire 2 isn't even fun to use. Fire 2 stinks. It's slow, expensive, and weak. And boring. Even freeze spam is more satisfying.

I guess not using Fire II makes us bad, though :/

[Grimoire-M]

I guess not using Fire II makes us bad, though :/

It doesn't because Fire II is bad. It needs to be buffed. Imo the best way is to make it replace Fire III in the AoE rotation.

[Roeshel]

I assume that if people are bad enough at video games, they have to cling to things like this to at least even things out a little.

Yeah no. Refusing to check if you are actually right is willfully being ignorant. Only those who are insecure decide to do that.

There is nothing wrong with being bad. I was bad as well when I picked up the blm role. But taking the time to check what I am doing wrong gave me the opportunity to learn how to cast four flares in succession. It's always awesome, I love it and I am ever looking to do it again when I play blm. It feels powerful because of the screen shaking. It's super satisfying. I also contribute with DPS by a lot instead of getting carried.