Male Viera names?

[Iscah]

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Additionally, given the general troll-infested mood of the forum lately, I can only regard with great wariness that your entire post history (at the time of writing) is a single FC advertisement seven years ago and your three posts here, the first seeming loaded to set off the same kind of argument that's been raging in General Discussion recently.

[APitaPie]

Additionally, given the general troll-infested mood of the forum lately, I can only regard with great wariness that your entire post history (at the time of writing) is a single FC advertisement seven years ago and your three posts here, the first seeming loaded to set off the same kind of argument that's been raging in General Discussion recently.

I'm sorry if my post count causes you concern. I dont venture into the forums very often as I find them to be full of people who dislike opinions differing from theirs--and trolls. Always the trolls.
I fully expected to not be believed, and you're welcome to that opinion. I'm sorry I didn't come to the table with a full set of footnotes.
In the off-chance that it was ivalician lore that I'm remembering, I don't see how that invalidates anything I said seeing as how they brought in the base lore, for example of mithra from ffxi and altered it and expanded on it for miqo'te.
I also don't understand why I'm sensing hostility about what I said in regards to Viera? If they are indeed a biologically driven race, is that a bad thing? Its different and it gives you lots of room for your own headcanon creativity.


I happened upon this thread while late-night googling to see if anyone had any ideas on what male Viera names will be. And yes, I was a bit flabbergasted that it went from a name discussion into gender identity politics. So I apologize if I seem like I'm coming in trying to start anything, I don't know what kind of discussions are happening in general discussion nor do I care to find out.

I doubt I'm remembering made-up lore as I'm kind of a huge official lore nut. I avoid fanon.

[APitaPie]

Stated clearly where?

We have so little Viera canon lore to go on.

The Viis NPCs give you quite a bit of lore, and while yes, they aren't Viera, the cultures of the races in The Source and The First have pretty much the same base fundamentals. While their cultures are slightly different between shards, their ways of life and biology are the same.
Now as for quotable lore I could link here, like I said, its late and I have no desire to go digging at this exact moment.

[YianKutku]

the cultures of the races in The Source and The First have pretty much the same base fundamentals.

I think it's pretty explicitly stated in the game that no, the cultures of the races between Source and First are very different. See: dwarves.

[APitaPie]

I think it's pretty explicitly stated in the game that no, the cultures of the races between Source and First are very different. See: dwarves.

I have to honestly disagree with that one, there are differences, yes, but they're still fundamentally the same.

As far as it goes with Viera, I'm pretty sure I read an interview somewhere with the devs saying to count Viis lore as Viera lore for now

[Iscah]

I think it's pretty explicitly stated in the game that no, the cultures of the races between Source and First are very different. See: dwarves.

It depends on the culture. Most of them are very different but Viis and Viera seem very similar, possibly because they're so long-lived and in a rigid culture that is less likely to change from generation to generation.

But...

The Viis NPCs give you quite a bit of lore, and while yes, they aren't Viera, the cultures of the races in The Source and The First have pretty much the same base fundamentals. While their cultures are slightly different between shards, their ways of life and biology are the same.
Now as for quotable lore I could link here, like I said, its late and I have no desire to go digging at this exact moment.

I went through the Viis quests in Fanow just the other week and I don't recall them saying anything about the men beyond one quest that amounts to "this beast must have been killed by one of the Watchers - a shame you missed seeing him."

So from that we can infer the same culture of the men living separately and protecting the outskirts of the village, but that's about all.

Beyond that, quote your sources because otherwise there's no guarantee it isn't from one of the Ivalice games or misremembered fanon. Doubly so if you're going to tell us that we're wrong.

[Fenral]

Since this will be critically important in the post-6.0 world, what's Icelandic for "Waffle" and can it be twisted into something lore-appropriate?

[Iscah]

Since this will be critically important in the post-6.0 world, what's Icelandic for "Waffle" and can it be twisted into something lore-appropriate?

I can't help you on the translation but it is 100% lore-accurate if you want it to be.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ng-Conventions

In practice, however, one will rarely encounter a Viera using her forest name, as those who choose to leave their homes and strike out into the wider world will generally choose new “city names” for themselves to mark their parting from the traditional Viera way of life. These chosen names are often inspired by the names of other races they encounter, or simply things that they like, such as “Cherry” or “Morning Glory,” and so vary widely between individuals.

[WhiteArchmage]

I was bored and started going through Viera-related threads.

Since this will be critically important in the post-6.0 world, what's Icelandic for "Waffle" and can it be twisted into something lore-appropriate?

Apparently it's "Vöfflu", which in a Linguistic-aside-ramble came from the (Middle) Dutch "Wafel", and refers to a "honeycomb", likely because of the square pattern (although did they just NOT think of making them with an actual honeycomb pattern?). This is likely because nouns don't tend to change THAT much between vaguely-related-languages (and English basically pickpockets other languages in search of loose words and grammar), especially when food items are concerned (by which I mean, pasta, certain types of cakes, tacos..., not, like, how Orange in Swedish is Apelsin or "Pome de terre"/"Ground apple" is French for Potato... ingredients are weird like that) we tend to use the "original" name or translate it to our language's proper grammatical rules.

As Iscah pointed out, "Waffle" would actually be 100% Lore Appropriate given we have "Cherry" and "Morning Glory" as city names (avoiding ANOTHER rant about those), but for a Forest name, I think Vöfflu would be kiiind of correct. However, even the Viera Naming Conventions thread mentions Viera Forest names "resemble" Icelandic and are pronounced "similarly"(most likely as a way to cover their behind should they goof, or to include not-perfectly-complying names like "Ruuj", which is meant to be phonetically similar to "Rouge", given that said name comes from Tactics A2 Clan "Cinquleur" member... Ruuj, a RED Mage), so feel free to change what's needed for character purposes.

(Also completely aside but ADD flares up and I forget but I've been meaning to apologize to Fenral because I was likely dismissive of G'raha coming back way back in 3.x, I was so sure they would NEVER make side-content necessary for MSQ which just shows how much I know about this game's writing, my predictions have been 0 to... 30)

Back on Topic, I wonder if and how the Viera Naming Conventions pinned post will update closer to Endwalker release. I'm glad Samniel Atkascha is already (headcanonly) an alias or at least an assumed name, but maybe I will actually make Mrjn an alt, his backstory's been rattling in my head since before 5.0 release.

[Fenral]

My login streak lapsed, so I couldn't respond to this in a timely manner even though I logged in again days ago. Thanks, WoW-pocalypse.

Apparently it's "Vöfflu", which in a Linguistic-aside-ramble came from the (Middle) Dutch "Wafel", and refers to a "honeycomb", likely because of the square pattern (although did they just NOT think of making them with an actual honeycomb pattern?).

That is good to know. I could probably shorten it to "Vofl" and not be too far off.

(Also completely aside but ADD flares up and I forget but I've been meaning to apologize to Fenral because I was likely dismissive of G'raha coming back way back in 3.x, I was so sure they would NEVER make side-content necessary for MSQ which just shows how much I know about this game's writing, my predictions have been 0 to... 30)

Apparently, the original plan was to leave him in storage until a second MSQ reset happened, rendering all the old content unplayable again, so we were technically both right. Then Heavensward hit like a bomb and it became in their best interests to not cut off old content, I guess. I'm just satisfied that no crimes against Conservation of Detail were intended. Either way, it was basically half a decade ago, and, I mean, I was going through an IRL lot at the time and hardly the most mature or likeable person about the whole thing, but okay, apology accepted. /blush

Back on Topic, I wonder if and how the Viera Naming Conventions pinned post will update closer to Endwalker release. I'm glad Samniel Atkascha is already (headcanonly) an alias or at least an assumed name, but maybe I will actually make Mrjn an alt, his backstory's been rattling in my head since before 5.0 release.

Looking at the dates, it usually happens a couple weeks to a month after official launch for expansion races, so we'll have access to the in-game name generator first.