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  1. #51
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    Yuna is definitely not what one would call "edgy", though it does bring to mind my idea of using a staff like tool. Maybe a Scepter to differentiate it from Rods of BLMs, and Staves of WHM and Canes of BLU. As for the dancing bit...mmm not really sure it fits an Edgelord concept based class. The whole point of the idea is creating a 'Edgelord' of the FFXIV Quadrilogy. DRK for our Tank, RPR for our Physical Melee and BLM for our Caster leaves only the Healer spot missing for the edgy dark classes. And if you want to be super picky we could also use a Ranged Physical class still. But for the most part to keep things simple we're focusing on the Edgelord Healer aspect for now.
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    As far as edgy or dark classes go, we could go with something like, "Diener" for an edgy healer. They're the guys who work in the morgue, sew the bodies up/move the bodies, and do the dressing. Could make the class spells all based on surgery terms/medical terms. Like suture or tourniquet. Their raise skill could be, "autopsy." or something. Not necessarily a class that makes complete sense. Heh. Everything involves either anatomy, death, or cutting. Talk about edge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    As far as edgy or dark classes go, we could go with something like, "Diener" for an edgy healer. They're the guys who work in the morgue, sew the bodies up/move the bodies, and do the dressing. Could make the class spells all based on surgery terms/medical terms. Like suture or tourniquet. Their raise skill could be, "autopsy." or something. Not necessarily a class that makes complete sense. Heh. Everything involves either anatomy, death, or cutting. Talk about edge.
    Sprinkle some dark Forbidden magic like necromancy and that could work out perfectly! Love it! You have a fantastic mind, good sir! :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by GDofLevin View Post
    Can we stop arguing over whose more useful, the pot or the kettle? Their both useful just as both theories on the inspiration are just that. Theories, unless the team comes out and says 'This inspired this' its a theory all the same.

    This thread was for the suggestion of a whip wielding Exorcist Job not arguments about the inspiration for Reaper. EXORCIST not Reaper.



    It's possible though for the class to work wouldn't we need an original tool? I agree staves have been used in abundance. But I can't really think of what else an exorcist might use. Hmmm maybe a hammer like the War Hammer's Templar's used. Come to think of it Templar Knights were said to be akin to protectors for priests and might have learned how to exorcise spirits and voidsent from those possessed by them. The only problem there is Templar's were known to be holy crusaders of the church, hardly what one might call an 'Edgelord'...
    Then what would be the opposite of a Templar Knight? Maybe the hammer could be slammed against the earth, temporarily opening up a coffin like gate to the void or some part of Mhach to temporarily summon slave voidsent to use powerful attack to decimate enemies before being forcefully pulled back into the coffin-like gates and sealed up again by tendril like chains jutting out from inside the gate. Or even using the same technique, opening a special gate to the void or some part of Mhach,, but in a different way to raise allies by flooding their body with corrupt aether sealed within, thus reviving them, though with some side effects.

    *Snaps fingers* Got a name for the job maybe! What if it was called Crypt Lurker, Crypt Binder or Crypt Sealer? Or maybe those would be better used as names for forms of attacks or abilities. xD Ooh! I got it! Crypt Keeper!

    Maybe Crypt Keepers could have derived themselves from Templar Knights some many years after learning the secrets of healing and exorcism from priests. But instead of using their new found powers in the usual way priests used them, the Templar Knighrs started experimenting with them, eventually learning how to bind spirits, voidsent and even the walking dead to their wills. Thus birthing the first Crypt Keepers, who would carry large modifed hammers to strike at flat surfaces around them to open gates that would bring their servants to them when needed to provide protection, buffing support for allies or deabilitating or outright killing enemies that stood in their way.

    Sorry, for the long post. My brain is burnt and insomnia won't let me sleep. Though I hope this post at least made sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GDofLevin View Post
    Yuna is definitely not what one would call "edgy", though it does bring to mind my idea of using a staff like tool. Maybe a Scepter to differentiate it from Rods of BLMs, and Staves of WHM and Canes of BLU. As for the dancing bit...mmm not really sure it fits an Edgelord concept based class. The whole point of the idea is creating a 'Edgelord' of the FFXIV Quadrilogy. DRK for our Tank, RPR for our Physical Melee and BLM for our Caster leaves only the Healer spot missing for the edgy dark classes. And if you want to be super picky we could also use a Ranged Physical class still. But for the most part to keep things simple we're focusing on the Edgelord Healer aspect for now.
    Eerie/Creepy ritual dancing could work for a dark Healer. Maybe as a way to help generate enough aether in order to perform the spell they want to cast. And I couldn't remember for the life of me what Black Mage's old wands were called until you said it! Scepters could be a good weapon to use for a dark Healer! Though the only problem is if the FFXIV team will use a different stance than Black and White Mages to show the difference between the three classes. xD

    I had this idea a long time ago for a Healer that shot out syringe-like bullets that when hitting allies, it would heal or cure them of ailments while doing the opposite for enemies. The idea was a mad scientist type job (think of Dr. Frankenstein) combined with steampunk technology. and aesthetics.

    Using experimental medicines that could drastically heal or severely hamper friend or for and could even revive allies in a sort of zombified state where they're either temporarily invincible to all attacks for a few brief seconds or their defense is kicked up to such a level where they could survive long enough on their own without the assistance of a Healer.

    Not exactly an edge lord Healer class, but it could be adjusted to be that way~ ;3
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    Before they announced that it was going to be Reaper, my money was on it being the, "Terror Knight" from the Ogre Battle series. These were knights in ebon armor wielding great weapons, swords, axes, hammers, or even scythes in one iteration. They were more magically oriented than other knights, and while wielding any non-elemental weapon defaulted to Bane(darkness) elemental magic when in the back row.

    Their entire moveset was based around inflicting fear in the enemy, and then playing off of that fear.
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    "I thought that my invincible power would hold the world captive, leaving me in a freedom undisturbed. Thus night and day I worked at the chain with huge fires and cruel hard strokes. When at last the work was done and the links were complete and unbreakable, I found that it held me in its grip." - Rabindranath Tagore

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    For a healer that's dark, you'd be better off with one that slings blessings and curses around. Curses to the enemy for DoT, damage, and a debuff that heals allies for a percentage of the damage they do to the enemy. For blessings, more potent "healing from doing damage" buffs to allies, some mitigation abilities (I could picture it as a shield healer), and a few buffs it could sling around.
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  8. #58
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    Lots of great ideas being thrown out here. This is what this thread was meant for. LOL

    Soge01's idea of a Crypt Keeper is interesting but sounds more like a Buffed up Necromancer in execution. Also the idea of a steampunk Regenerator type class makes sense as well although how would you differentiate the weapon from Machinist? Creepy dancing would be hard to implement seeing how many dances are already in FFXIV emote wise. Another thing we need to think of is the Limit Break and how its executed.

    RyuDragnier brings up good mechanics that could be implemented in the move pool.

    I found an image of an 'Edgy' Exorcist though its so edgy its hard to call it such.
    Exorcist Class

    I can picture this with a hammer or scepter easily. Plus the chain aesthetic is most pleasing to the eye having a very 'edgy' appearance. However likely the red would have to go and be replaced by a different color aside a bright color like white yellow or orange. Maybe a dark blue?
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    Looks more like an Edda based job to me. Bloodborne did not invent scythes.
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    Y'all are going to be SO disappointed when the new Reaper class does not play like you think it should because ... Bloodborne.

    For some of you, a little less "erp" on the brain would be a good thing. Whips = erp; clothing = BSDM. Your mind appears to dwell a biiiiiiiiiit to much ...
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