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    Are wands and shields discontinued for WHM?

    I kinda like the thought of being able to block while leveling another healer (sch mainly, so the loss of shields is rough to get used to though) while also standing out a little, but I'm finding it increasingly difficult to find conjurer shields and wands as I level up with it.

    Did they discontinue the idea of them after ARR for just canes or am I just not seeing them drop?
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxkid View Post
    Did they discontinue the idea of them after ARR
    They did : (
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    discontinued as they were holdovers from 1.0. conjurer had a side thing called sentinel where the shield was from

    you can still on the rare occasion get a parry with any job and weapon so dont worry

    funnily enough though they did have a small resurgence recently because of bozja, a level 80 zone that ups stats and levels inside. so a level 1 wand and shield was better than a level 80 cane in that zone
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    They did : (
    Hell, they killed it before ARR even ended. Leviathan EX is the last Extreme to drop a Wand/Shield combo, with Ramuh onward only dropping a Staff. Kinda surprised the Wand/Shield combo lasted as long as it did.
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    Horrible, I was enjoying using my tiny stick to cast holy and heals :s

    And I'm aware of Bozja (still need to look for that mount..), but that's funny that a wand and shield outdoes a cane, but I'm guessing they adjusted it since then or just not worth it as much anymore?
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    Enkidoh Roux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    discontinued as they were holdovers from 1.0. conjurer had a side thing called sentinel where the shield was from

    you can still on the rare occasion get a parry with any job and weapon so dont worry

    funnily enough though they did have a small resurgence recently because of bozja, a level 80 zone that ups stats and levels inside. so a level 1 wand and shield was better than a level 80 cane in that zone
    SEN (Sentinel) was more for GLA as only GLA could make use of SEN abilities (which mostly became GLA abilities by default when SEN was rolled into GLA anyway), but THM and CNJ could equip certain shields and thus gain SP towards SEN. This all changed when the 1.0 battle system was redesigned circa 1.20 patch and SP was removed, and Class Rank became Class Level, and Jobs were added, so SEN was rolled into GLA to make it a better fit for PLD which naturally was all about defense with a shield, and shields became classless. But certain types of shields could still be equipped to THM and CNJ given there was plenty of single handed wands/rods those two classes used, and this continued into ARR.

    However, as the end game CNJ/WHM and THM/BLM weapons in ARR were exclusively 2-handed, this fell by the wayside, and so there was an expectation that no one would use single handed weapons for those classes anymore (I believe there was a level 50/item level 95 Allagan single handed rod for THM/BLM, and a level 50/item level 100 CNJ/WHM single-handed Primal wand in ARR's patch scenario, but I think they were the last ones ever added.).

    Either way, single-handed weapons for THM/BLM and CNJ/WHM are a legacy of 1.0 that has since been left behind I'm afraid, and you will only find two-handed weapons in recent content for those Jobs.
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    Last edited by Enkidoh; 05-21-2021 at 10:57 AM.

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    It's a shame they discontinued them. Was it just too much work to offer two sets of weapons for THM/BLM and CNJ/WHM?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    It's a shame they discontinued them. Was it just too much work to offer two sets of weapons for THM/BLM and CNJ/WHM?
    Yeah, they have to spend that time designing a special set of armor specifically for Dragoon in every single new set of content. Good thing Reaper's going to share with it in 6.0, 'cuz I always thought it was funny we have the "all four tanks" set, the "all three healers" set, the "all four casters set", and...yep Dragoon gets its own exclusive set every patch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    Yeah, they have to spend that time designing a special set of armor specifically for Dragoon in every single new set of content. Good thing Reaper's going to share with it in 6.0, 'cuz I always thought it was funny we have the "all four tanks" set, the "all three healers" set, the "all four casters set", and...yep Dragoon gets its own exclusive set every patch.
    Ninja getting ignored? Dang..
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    Larek Darkholme
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    Thank god! Hope they can find a new solutions for paladin.
    It was AWFUL when you had to roll for both the wand and the healer shield. Most of the time you would get only one of the two.
    Either they should come as a set or they should not bother dong this again.
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