Karma system in the official forums?

[Sotaris]

Karma fishing here too? No thanks.

[Kolsykol]

Karma fishing here too? No thanks.

For real...
Art theft is insanely rampant on Reddit, I've seen people go as far as to use Patreon rewards to fake '' evidence '' that it's their work when people call them out on it too even tho the actual artist is on Twitter saying it's not them lol.
In the end it doesn't matter tho because they've already got their 10k+ upvotes or whatever.

Edit: Also, I hate how people abuse the downvote on Reddit.
People downvote others for very simple disagreements or out of spite, it creates echo chambers and makes people scared of having opinions.
It doesn't even need to be a controversial opinion.

I generally hate how people behave around art on Reddit in general people are insanely rude especially when it's anything that could possibly be seen as even mildly suggestive and is a female character.
Even on the FFXIV subreddit there's a lot of unnecessary rudeness towards people which is especially bad since the art is usually peoples OC's they've commissioned art of.
But then in the comments it's always people who have to complain because there's *gasp* cleavage or whatever EVERY chance they get.
If you speak up at all about that you get dogpiled with downvotes because they're super dedicated, the art can be 99% upvoted but the comments can be super negative with dedicated haters.

I dunno why but Reddit is just especially bad, I actually think that Twitter is less toxic and that's saying a lot.

You could replace it with a Useful or Not Useful option instead. A karma system like Reddit promotes group think and anyone who doesn’t agree with the hive mind gets downvoted into oblivion. It’s not a good system for actual conversations to be held.

I kinda fail to see how that's different tbh.
I think that simply having a like system is fine, generally it gets the same point across but without the people just abusing downvotes/ not useful out of spite or for simple disagreements.

With that said maybe special commendations would be okay too.
But I think that as soon as you add a negative thing it very easily just turn into the same thing.

[Raskbuck]

The problem with a karma system is that it promotes an echo chamber of parroting ideas, while suppressing dissenting one. The whole spirit of a forum is to have different point of views and discuss them, and communities like Reddit can end up being fairly closed minded when proposing anything that escapes the norm to them.

[seraf]

For real...
Art theft is insanely rampant on Reddit, I've seen people go as far as to use Patreon rewards to fake '' evidence '' that it's their work when people call them out on it too even tho the actual artist is on Twitter saying it's not them lol.
In the end it doesn't matter tho because they've already got their 10k+ upvotes or whatever.

Edit: Also, I hate how people abuse the downvote on Reddit.
People downvote others for very simple disagreements or out of spite, it creates echo chambers and makes people scared of having opinions.
It doesn't even need to be a controversial opinion.

I generally hate how people behave around art on Reddit in general people are insanely rude especially when it's anything that could possibly be seen as even mildly suggestive and is a female character.
Even on the FFXIV subreddit there's a lot of unnecessary rudeness towards people which is especially bad since the art is usually peoples OC's they've commissioned art of.
But then in the comments it's always people who have to complain because there's *gasp* cleavage or whatever EVERY chance they get.
If you speak up at all about that you get dogpiled with downvotes because they're super dedicated, the art can be 99% upvoted but the comments can be super negative with dedicated haters.

I dunno why but Reddit is just especially bad, I actually think that Twitter is less toxic and that's saying a lot.



I kinda fail to see how that's different tbh.
I think that simply having a like system is fine, generally it gets the same point across but without the people just abusing downvotes/ not useful out of spite or for simple disagreements.

With that said maybe special commendations would be okay too.
But I think that as soon as you add a negative thing it very easily just turn into the same thing.

Make the helpful or not helpful thing unique per post not as a whole thing that follows the user around the site. It’s basically what Amazon reviews do. Either way I don’t see what any sort of Karma system would add to this site in all honesty.

[SturmChurro]

I dunno why but Reddit is just especially bad, I actually think that Twitter is less toxic and that's saying a lot.

I think that simply having a like system is fine, generally it gets the same point across but without the people just abusing downvotes/ not useful out of spite or for simple disagreements.

I've actually complained about Reddit before on the forums. I can't even post on the main FFXIV Reddit, because I have too many downvotes from a different subreddit - I got downvoted to oblivion for asking if I could refund a game. I wasn't really an avid user of Reddit at the time, so I contacted the mainsub's mod's and they told me to go farm upvotes, or "karma", whatever it's called somewhere else, and come back.

Needless to say, I haven't used Reddit since.

[MPK]

I've actually complained about Reddit before on the forums. I can't even post on the main FFXIV Reddit, because I have too many downvotes from a different subreddit - I got downvoted to oblivion for asking if I could refund a game. I wasn't really an avid user of Reddit at the time, so I contacted the mainsub's mod's and they told me to go farm upvotes, or "karma", whatever it's called somewhere else, and come back.

Needless to say, I haven't used Reddit since.

Yeah I have no clue why Reddit is so popular. I guess it's because it makes people feel good about themselves because it seems everyone agrees with them

[SturmChurro]

Yeah I have no clue why Reddit is so popular. I guess it's because it makes people feel good about themselves because it seems everyone agrees with them

People don't like dissenting opinions; being told their wrong. Same reason many yell "troll" if someone has an opinion they don't like. Having tons of upvotes on Reddit probably makes some feel like they have some sort of 'status', It's addictive. Many people aren't necessarily looking for actual discussion, just those things to reinforce their own opinions as fact.

[Shougun]

People don't like dissenting opinions; being told their wrong. Same reason many yell "troll" if someone has an opinion they don't like. Having tons of upvotes on Reddit probably makes some feel like they have some sort of 'status', It's addictive. Many people aren't necessarily looking for actual discussion, just those things to reinforce their own opinions as fact.

That also ties into a shift in presentation styles, from calm and attention to detail (at least the potential for it) to more clickbait / yellow journalism - getting the smack down in, is something people both like doing and spectating. Quippy, less useful, more biased information, yay........ yaayyy... us... lol. Primal part of people likes the blood sport and their team winning, information be damned xD.

Someone might spend a lot of time to layout this nice groundwork and another person will go in with a two word reply and 'totally own them!!1!1!11' and while you might have something sort of like that currently at least the system doesn't hide posts and elevate the silliness of such actions. Post still there, nothing hidden, maybe get some upvotes but you can't do much in terms of hiding the info without spamming / derailing (which the moderators do and have punished users for). Although that's why I wondered what would happen if they hid likes, makes it even more less rewarding for people to make the less contributing 'smack down' posts.

[Ammokkx]

getting the smack down in, is something people both like doing and spectating.

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Although that's why I wondered what would happen if they hid likes, makes it even more less rewarding for people to make the less contributing 'smack down' posts.

hey- hey!

I have some killer one-liners, don't take my talents away from me :c

[Vahlnir]

People don't like dissenting opinions; being told their wrong. Same reason many yell "troll" if someone has an opinion they don't like. Having tons of upvotes on Reddit probably makes some feel like they have some sort of 'status', It's addictive. Many people aren't necessarily looking for actual discussion, just those things to reinforce their own opinions as fact.

The thing is, there actually is some regular trolls around here, and I'd wager at least half of what you may see as an opinion some of us don't like is actually someone trolling...or just someone looking for attention, even if it's negative. The premises of some threads really are a spectacle in and of themselves. If some of these are legit opinions, I weep for humanity.