Karma system in the official forums?

[SecretIsland]

As an avid Redditor, I can see the pros and cons of the karma system on Reddit. Having high levels of karma indicate that you're a trustworthy source of information and your contributions to the community is appreciate. On the other hand, downvoting frequently leads to witch hunting and silencing of different viewpoints.

What if the official forums adopted the karma system without allowing for downvotes? Then in addition to the post count we can show the amount of likes they have collected on their posts. This allows us to calculate the average likes per post for each person to see who is a quality contributor. Not allowing downvotes prevents the negatives in the Reddit system.

What are your thoughts?

[MPK]

Oh my god titanmen is back!

Welcome back TitanMen! However I disagree with your post. Reddit is the most toxic place in the world. It's even more toxic than 4chan. The upvote/downvote system only encourages echo chambers.

The forums should show us the total amount of likes we have though.

[seraf]

You could replace it with a Useful or Not Useful option instead. A karma system like Reddit promotes group think and anyone who doesn’t agree with the hive mind gets downvoted into oblivion. It’s not a good system for actual conversations to be held.

[Penthea]

What are your thoughts?

No lets not give incentive to people to make controversial threads that would give them a lot of karma. There are some controversial topics in which the like ratio is similar on both sides. I don't want anyone to do that with the goal of getting karma just so they can appear cool to other people even in other threads.

[Sotaris]

Karma fishing here too? No thanks.

[Kolsykol]

Karma fishing here too? No thanks.

For real...
Art theft is insanely rampant on Reddit, I've seen people go as far as to use Patreon rewards to fake '' evidence '' that it's their work when people call them out on it too even tho the actual artist is on Twitter saying it's not them lol.
In the end it doesn't matter tho because they've already got their 10k+ upvotes or whatever.

Edit: Also, I hate how people abuse the downvote on Reddit.
People downvote others for very simple disagreements or out of spite, it creates echo chambers and makes people scared of having opinions.
It doesn't even need to be a controversial opinion.

I generally hate how people behave around art on Reddit in general people are insanely rude especially when it's anything that could possibly be seen as even mildly suggestive and is a female character.
Even on the FFXIV subreddit there's a lot of unnecessary rudeness towards people which is especially bad since the art is usually peoples OC's they've commissioned art of.
But then in the comments it's always people who have to complain because there's *gasp* cleavage or whatever EVERY chance they get.
If you speak up at all about that you get dogpiled with downvotes because they're super dedicated, the art can be 99% upvoted but the comments can be super negative with dedicated haters.

I dunno why but Reddit is just especially bad, I actually think that Twitter is less toxic and that's saying a lot.

You could replace it with a Useful or Not Useful option instead. A karma system like Reddit promotes group think and anyone who doesn’t agree with the hive mind gets downvoted into oblivion. It’s not a good system for actual conversations to be held.

I kinda fail to see how that's different tbh.
I think that simply having a like system is fine, generally it gets the same point across but without the people just abusing downvotes/ not useful out of spite or for simple disagreements.

With that said maybe special commendations would be okay too.
But I think that as soon as you add a negative thing it very easily just turn into the same thing.

[Raskbuck]

The problem with a karma system is that it promotes an echo chamber of parroting ideas, while suppressing dissenting one. The whole spirit of a forum is to have different point of views and discuss them, and communities like Reddit can end up being fairly closed minded when proposing anything that escapes the norm to them.

[seraf]

For real...
Art theft is insanely rampant on Reddit, I've seen people go as far as to use Patreon rewards to fake '' evidence '' that it's their work when people call them out on it too even tho the actual artist is on Twitter saying it's not them lol.
In the end it doesn't matter tho because they've already got their 10k+ upvotes or whatever.

Edit: Also, I hate how people abuse the downvote on Reddit.
People downvote others for very simple disagreements or out of spite, it creates echo chambers and makes people scared of having opinions.
It doesn't even need to be a controversial opinion.

I generally hate how people behave around art on Reddit in general people are insanely rude especially when it's anything that could possibly be seen as even mildly suggestive and is a female character.
Even on the FFXIV subreddit there's a lot of unnecessary rudeness towards people which is especially bad since the art is usually peoples OC's they've commissioned art of.
But then in the comments it's always people who have to complain because there's *gasp* cleavage or whatever EVERY chance they get.
If you speak up at all about that you get dogpiled with downvotes because they're super dedicated, the art can be 99% upvoted but the comments can be super negative with dedicated haters.

I dunno why but Reddit is just especially bad, I actually think that Twitter is less toxic and that's saying a lot.



I kinda fail to see how that's different tbh.
I think that simply having a like system is fine, generally it gets the same point across but without the people just abusing downvotes/ not useful out of spite or for simple disagreements.

With that said maybe special commendations would be okay too.
But I think that as soon as you add a negative thing it very easily just turn into the same thing.

Make the helpful or not helpful thing unique per post not as a whole thing that follows the user around the site. It’s basically what Amazon reviews do. Either way I don’t see what any sort of Karma system would add to this site in all honesty.

[SturmChurro]

I dunno why but Reddit is just especially bad, I actually think that Twitter is less toxic and that's saying a lot.

I think that simply having a like system is fine, generally it gets the same point across but without the people just abusing downvotes/ not useful out of spite or for simple disagreements.

I've actually complained about Reddit before on the forums. I can't even post on the main FFXIV Reddit, because I have too many downvotes from a different subreddit - I got downvoted to oblivion for asking if I could refund a game. I wasn't really an avid user of Reddit at the time, so I contacted the mainsub's mod's and they told me to go farm upvotes, or "karma", whatever it's called somewhere else, and come back.

Needless to say, I haven't used Reddit since.

[MPK]

I've actually complained about Reddit before on the forums. I can't even post on the main FFXIV Reddit, because I have too many downvotes from a different subreddit - I got downvoted to oblivion for asking if I could refund a game. I wasn't really an avid user of Reddit at the time, so I contacted the mainsub's mod's and they told me to go farm upvotes, or "karma", whatever it's called somewhere else, and come back.

Needless to say, I haven't used Reddit since.

Yeah I have no clue why Reddit is so popular. I guess it's because it makes people feel good about themselves because it seems everyone agrees with them