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    Please disable cross world hunt trains

    Ever since cross world hunt trains were added they have been completely unplayable for people on PS4 or slower computers. This isn’t fair and I think they should return to marks only giving rewards to players on their world. It doesn’t matter if I can tag the mob with aoe heals if I can’t even get there before it’s demolished in 30 seconds because people are inconsiderate and “bullet trains” are the hot new thing. So please square Enix return hunt trains to the tight knit home world communities they once were and stop alienating half your playerbase from one of the few open world pieces of content you have.
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    There's usually a 5-10 minute announcement before the train begins. Choo choo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TroySoFab View Post
    There's usually a 5-10 minute announcement before the train begins. Choo choo!
    That’s irrelevant, teleporting to the subsequent zones can take upwards of 45 seconds to load on a PS4 with a SSD and this late into the expansion the marks die within 30 seconds. It’s pretty much impossible to get to the first mark of the zone, and sometimes the second if you hit congestion. This is the only piece of content in the game that is gated by a console that is impossible to get or a $10,000 graphics card.
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    I'm on PS4 Pro, and I get there and get credit, even when zones get congested due to the train.

    Have you tried limiting all effects that are not you, shortening the names(I personally only show initials for people not on friends list/in FC), and adjusting other settings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    I'm on PS4 Pro, and I get there and get credit, even when zones get congested due to the train.

    Have you tried limiting all effects that are not you, shortening the names(I personally only show initials for people not on friends list/in FC), and adjusting other settings?
    Yes, every train I join I make sure to disable all spel effects and all player names and it does not make any noticeable difference on a standard PS4 with a SSD. I still hit congestion frequently and miss 4 or 5 marks per train because they die so fast nowadays.
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    I'm one of the slower loader in those trains. Mind you, I did them during 5.5 nut hype where the explosive amount of players would often mean the conductor closing off the train for their own worlds so I have no idea what's the status nowadays. Here's what I did to alleviate my issue:
    1. Hide names/title/pet like others had mentioned above
    2. Reduce the amount of character rendering to minimum. This sounds counterintuitive, but apparently the game prioritizes rendering your target more than everybody else on your surrounding.
    3. Join a full party ASAP. The reason for this aside from contribution sharing, one of your party member is usually a monstrously fast clicker/inputter (to teleport). They helped a slow clicker like myself.
    4. Consider rolling as a tank (preferrably) or healer of the group. In the event when the hunt won't render correctly, just turn on tank stance & spam your non-targetting AoE in the middle of where players crowding. Healers can do the same but people usually resort in overhealing with aoe heals to get the full credit because they're prone to one-shots without tank's privilege (Mudman says hello).
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamjeeshoul77 View Post
    Ever since cross world hunt trains were added they have been completely unplayable for people on PS4 or slower computers. This isn’t fair and I think they should return to marks only giving rewards to players on their world. It doesn’t matter if I can tag the mob with aoe heals if I can’t even get there before it’s demolished in 30 seconds because people are inconsiderate and “bullet trains” are the hot new thing. So please square Enix return hunt trains to the tight knit home world communities they once were and stop alienating half your playerbase from one of the few open world pieces of content you have.
    It's not inconsiderate to kill the hunts it's a design choice. they were meant to be competitive in a sense of you have to go out find and kill them before anyone else can..

    one could argue that if you werent already in the zone doing the work to trigger the mark you dont deserve credit for helping to kill it.

    I've been reported a couple fo times because ive just been flying around an area on my gatherer and been like ""oh hey a mark"... switched jobs and started to fight it only to find a whole bunch of people turning up and getting upset because they couldnt get there in time to get credit. but nothing ever happens because i'm playing the content as intended...

    They're pretty boring anyway just mindless zergs when so many people turn up.. I kinda wish they went the XI direction and only the party / alliance that pulls can engage.. at least then they could actually make them mechanically interesting and not just brainless zergs where the answer is just throw more bodies at it..
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    If you have Discord you might also want to join Centurio Hunts. It's a pretty big hunt discord where any trains or S-ranks on your data center are announced, arguably faster and more reliable than Cross-World Linkshells.
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    With or without cross-world travel it will not change your problem.

    It will still be burned in 30 seconds.
    As everyone could grab less kuponuts be day by removing cross-world travel, more people might try to get rank A/S kills.
    If you don't have the time to load the area and get to the Hunt, less people will mean you will have time to get there but not enough time to get the full rewards.

    If you're late because of loading time (and they improved those recently) you might want to upgrade your hardware, not limit the others.
    SQEX could change the way hunts works, massively increase their HP or putting a vulnerability down buff for a minute or so when it's pulled just to slow the burn at the beginning.
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    Last edited by CKNovel; 06-09-2021 at 06:46 PM.

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    Crossworlds aren't going anywhere. If hunts are a problem the conductors can choose to run them locally and not post to discord. Been doing hunts for years and they're just fine. They've slowed down a lot since many have their upgrades and don't bother with them anymore,

    Would recommend you don't queue for them on reset days but later in the week. Fridays are pretty slow and mornings.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 06-09-2021 at 06:50 PM.

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