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    Karma system in the official forums?

    As an avid Redditor, I can see the pros and cons of the karma system on Reddit. Having high levels of karma indicate that you're a trustworthy source of information and your contributions to the community is appreciate. On the other hand, downvoting frequently leads to witch hunting and silencing of different viewpoints.

    What if the official forums adopted the karma system without allowing for downvotes? Then in addition to the post count we can show the amount of likes they have collected on their posts. This allows us to calculate the average likes per post for each person to see who is a quality contributor. Not allowing downvotes prevents the negatives in the Reddit system.

    What are your thoughts?
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    Oh my god titanmen is back!

    Welcome back TitanMen! However I disagree with your post. Reddit is the most toxic place in the world. It's even more toxic than 4chan. The upvote/downvote system only encourages echo chambers.

    The forums should show us the total amount of likes we have though.
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    Last edited by MPK; 05-21-2021 at 02:28 AM.

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    You could replace it with a Useful or Not Useful option instead. A karma system like Reddit promotes group think and anyone who doesn’t agree with the hive mind gets downvoted into oblivion. It’s not a good system for actual conversations to be held.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SecretIsland View Post
    What are your thoughts?
    No lets not give incentive to people to make controversial threads that would give them a lot of karma. There are some controversial topics in which the like ratio is similar on both sides. I don't want anyone to do that with the goal of getting karma just so they can appear cool to other people even in other threads.
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    Karma fishing here too? No thanks.
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    We can already click on a profile and see the other posts that someone has made, as well as threads that they've started, I feel like that ought to give us a decent idea of how reliable a poster actually is.
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    time to revive a classic

    Quote Originally Posted by Ammokkx View Post
    I almost took this thread seriously until I saw it was titanman's alt that posted it
    only I didn't really take this one seriously from the first

    Also MPK posting within the minute of this going up is lending credence to the fact Titanman was just another alter ego to begin with, which

    I am terrified of thinking how deep this rabbithole goes
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    Quote Originally Posted by seraf View Post
    You could replace it with a Useful or Not Useful option instead. A karma system like Reddit promotes group think and anyone who doesn’t agree with the hive mind gets downvoted into oblivion. It’s not a good system for actual conversations to be held.
    A Useful/Not Useful option would be better, I agree. Perhaps someone with a lot of useful posts will get a special recognition on their profile?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ammokkx View Post
    time to revive a classic



    only I didn't really take this one seriously from the first

    Also MPK posting within the minute of this going up is lending credence to the fact Titanman was just another alter ego to begin with, which

    I am terrified of thinking how deep this rabbithole goes
    Secretly Yoshi P is also MPK in disguise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    Karma fishing here too? No thanks.
    For real...
    Art theft is insanely rampant on Reddit, I've seen people go as far as to use Patreon rewards to fake '' evidence '' that it's their work when people call them out on it too even tho the actual artist is on Twitter saying it's not them lol.
    In the end it doesn't matter tho because they've already got their 10k+ upvotes or whatever.

    Edit: Also, I hate how people abuse the downvote on Reddit.
    People downvote others for very simple disagreements or out of spite, it creates echo chambers and makes people scared of having opinions.
    It doesn't even need to be a controversial opinion.

    I generally hate how people behave around art on Reddit in general people are insanely rude especially when it's anything that could possibly be seen as even mildly suggestive and is a female character.
    Even on the FFXIV subreddit there's a lot of unnecessary rudeness towards people which is especially bad since the art is usually peoples OC's they've commissioned art of.
    But then in the comments it's always people who have to complain because there's *gasp* cleavage or whatever EVERY chance they get.
    If you speak up at all about that you get dogpiled with downvotes because they're super dedicated, the art can be 99% upvoted but the comments can be super negative with dedicated haters.

    I dunno why but Reddit is just especially bad, I actually think that Twitter is less toxic and that's saying a lot.

    Quote Originally Posted by seraf View Post
    You could replace it with a Useful or Not Useful option instead. A karma system like Reddit promotes group think and anyone who doesn’t agree with the hive mind gets downvoted into oblivion. It’s not a good system for actual conversations to be held.
    I kinda fail to see how that's different tbh.
    I think that simply having a like system is fine, generally it gets the same point across but without the people just abusing downvotes/ not useful out of spite or for simple disagreements.

    With that said maybe special commendations would be okay too.
    But I think that as soon as you add a negative thing it very easily just turn into the same thing.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 05-21-2021 at 02:54 AM.

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