Forced to preorder early because of Wind-up Palom

[Stepjam]

By "now", you mean in the next 6 months right?

Though I generally don't care too much for permanently missable stuff, but I also don't lose much sleep over minions.

[Venandi]

Even assuming you already have every other minion in the game (well done!) any inkling of 'completionist' in you means that you will for certain be buying Endwalker anyway... so why would you not preorder?
This isn't like new game releases, where marketting gets people to preorder an unfinished, unseen product. This is a mandatory expansion to an ongoing MMO. You don't have a choice. If you want to play FFXIV, then you're going to buy Endwalker.
What else are you going to do? Hang out in Eulmore at level 80 for the next 5 years?

I will not be pressured by FOMO tactics by shady business majors to be forced into buying a game. I will wait for reviews to come out then make my purchasing decision accordingly. It's sad that so many gamers rush to preorder the game. That's what happened with Cyberpunk and people got scammed by shady devs.

[ShipDeck]

I like to believe buying preorders come at your own volition. It's either you lose money or give up wanting the minion. It's only you who has to decide.

[Illmaeran]

As other people have said, pre-ordering is 100% personal choice, offers no lasting in-game advantages, and is in no way required to be able to play the game. The same goes for buying a Collector's Edition; the extras that come with it are purely extraneous and offer no lasting in-game advantages. If you want to continue playing the game past Shadowbringers, you're going to have to purchase expansions, so why not go ahead and pre-order? I can understand the desire to wait for reviews if you're not sure if you want to continue playing, but if you're sure you want to continue, go ahead and pre-order.

In the end, the extras you get are incentives for pre-ordering so the company can have an assured amount of income on launch day. The same goes for the Collector's Edition; they're in no way forcing you to get it, but they are trying to coax you into doing so in order to make some extra money. Developing games like this is expensive, so the faster SE can get a return on its investment the better it is for them.

It's not predatory practice, it's sound marketing and incentivizing the player base so as to generate as much income as possible as quickly as possible.

[Canadane]

I will not be pressured by FOMO tactics by shady business majors to be forced into buying a game. I will wait for reviews to come out then make my purchasing decision accordingly. It's sad that so many gamers rush to preorder the game. That's what happened with Cyberpunk and people got scammed by shady devs.

There's a difference between some new game put out like Cyberpunk vs. a game you've been enjoying for 11 years already such as FFXIV.
If you really want to wait for reviews for Endwalker, go ahead. But spoilers, it's going to be more of the same as we have now.

[Breakbeat]

Can whoever made the decision to separate Wind-up Palom and Wind-up Porom please explain what they were thinking?

I can explain what they were thinking...

Why is Wind-up Palom a preorder reward but Wind-up Porom a digital collector's edition reward?

This is called marketing. When an individual or a company wants to make money, one thing they can do is create an incentive for people to spend that money. A good marketing idea, for example, would be to take a set of twins and make each of them available, individually, as minions tied to different purchases. This is done in an effort to get the consumer to spend more money.

As SE is a for-profit company, I have no doubt that this decision was, indeed, a marketing effort to generate more revenue.

Crazy, yeah? Who would have figured a for-profit company would have wanted to make profit? I know, it's nuts... but if you look around in the world, you'll see that promotions and marketing tactics are present everywhere. It's just one of the things we have to deal with as humans that live on Earth.

/s

/shrug

[KDSilver]

All of this for a pre-order minion.
Well...

[MilkieTea]

I can explain what they were thinking...



This is called marketing. When an individual or a company wants to make money, one thing they can do is create an incentive for people to spend that money. A good marketing idea, for example, would be to take a set of twins and make each of them available, individually, as minions tied to different purchases. This is done in an effort to get the consumer to spend more money.

As SE is a for-profit company, I have no doubt that this decision was, indeed, a marketing effort to generate more revenue.

Crazy, yeah? Who would have figured a for-profit company would have wanted to make profit? I know, it's nuts... but if you look around in the world, you'll see that promotions and marketing tactics are present everywhere. It's just one of the things we have to deal with as humans that live on Earth.

/s

/shrug

Honestly it isn't even two separate purchases - it's incentive to purchase it *earlier*, yes, but the preorder isn't even a separate purchase from the digital collectors edition, and if one were going to already buy the collectors edition it just makes sense to preorder. It gets them more money *faster* but not necessarily EXTRA money if you catch my drift?

[Chekopacheko]

Simple solution to this predicament:

You want the minion that badly? : Pre order

You don't want the minion that badly or don't care about it?: Don't pre order

SE is not forcing anyone to pre order, but obviously they will put some incentive to do it.

[LianaThorne]

I will not be pressured by FOMO tactics by shady business majors to be forced into buying a game. I will wait for reviews to come out then make my purchasing decision accordingly. It's sad that so many gamers rush to preorder the game. That's what happened with Cyberpunk and people got scammed by shady devs.

I got the easiest solution in the world for you, ready?

Don't.Buy.It.

If you're that upset that a company that is literally here to take your money separated minions to encourage more sales, don't buy it. End of story.

Do what you want with your money, let everyone else do what they want with theirs. If you're dead-set on being a completionist...suck it up and spend the money. Welcome to 2021 and the current gaming environment, this is nothing new.

Side note, if you're trying to be sly and say that people here are gonna get scammed by Square and that they're shady...do us all a favor and don't pre-order. Bring your toxicity into the game once everyone else has enjoyed Endwalker from Day 1. You clearly have no idea whats actually going on and comparing this to Cyberpunk is insulting.