Why isn’t the third party software ban enforced?

[Anzaman]

It literally screams in your ears what to press next for your rotation and where/when to move. That’s cheating...or maybe I’m missing something?

I could just imagine computer constantly screaming "BATTERY FULL: ACTIVATE AUTOMATON QUEEN!"

Yeah, no thanks.

[KageTokage]

There were/are people using third party programs to trivialize certain mechanics in both UWU and TEA as they're able to pick up on and identify exactly what the bosses are doing well before you'd normally be able to tell what's coming and how to position for it.

Unfortunately, there probably isn't any way for SE to actually detect this manner of cheating...assuming they even care.

[IckeDerTyp]

If its information the game has, just doesn't wanna show ya, how is it cheating?

In Wow and basically any other MMO I've ever played so called 'addons' are a very important thing and tbh, I'd really like SE to open up more, mainly because... Well, look at the UI ^^

Imagine having Pitbull to build your own raid frames, or just weakauras for tiny CD beeps etc, or a way to see if you're playing your job right by like... Hmm, maybe your dps? Strange, I know!
Maybe a TRP-esque addon for the Role players too! I always enjoyed reading people's bios in WoW!

Addons are a godsend, especially with older Mmos and I think this one could profit greatly from em!

However, I do not condone anything that's against ToS, so until they greenlight these addons, ya shouldn't touch any!

[CKNovel]

If its information the game has, just doesn't wanna show ya, how is it cheating?

When TEA was released in China, there was videos about a cheat that would show the invisible AoEs.
Where they would spawn and how big they were.

It was only possible in China because they handle files differently, I believe.
There was also a script that would resolve mechanics for you, someone using it was caught red-handed on stream due to how weirdly they were moving on stream.
There was also cases were scripts would read the game memory and put markers for you, let's say to display where an invisible AoE would appear. This is why we can't place ground markers in battle.

DPS is a valuable information but adding it in the game is a bad idea, DPS is not enough information to evaluate a player level but many casuals would only use it as a metric.

There's a clear problem where add-ons are a massive advantages and delivers too much information you shouldn't have access to.
The content is not designed to reveal these informations.

I totally support not cheating with botting, hacking, etc. but Why is another person playing affecting a certain way affecting your playing? Have you been excluded because you didn't have it?

Short story:
We had to kick and find a new player for savage prog because they were trigger-addict, all was good for Ultimate but when the new savage dropped and no trigger would work on these new fight that person had a level way below what was promised.
We lost 2 whole weeks of progress when we intended to clear the tier before Christmas.
I was once refused in a group because I refused to install triggers and would rather spend my energy figuring the fight myself. Quite happy I never joined them, thought.

[Azoryl]

I totally support not cheating with botting, hacking, etc. but Why is another person playing affecting a certain way affecting your playing? Have you been excluded because you didn't have it?

Also, this is not botting as the machine is not controlling the PC... This is taking information from the game and processing it in a different way.

The point... why are we trying to ban these players if they are not directly affecting people... let them enjoy the game in their way, you enjoy it in your way. It should only be an issue if their playing directly affects you.

[_Koneko_]

this game needs some real anti cheat software so the hammer of justice can be swung down on the sinners

[Luluna]

I think it is like plugging the old cheats cartridge in haha.

I am not sure but in the Uk way back, there used to be a guy called the games guru I used to watch on TV and he would give codes and cheats out each week lol

On a more serious note the game is not difficult and I love a challenge but maybe I am old school. I also hate being the one that is dead but its fun, it would be really boring if I knew what was gonna happen. I like to get better and learn.

[NanaWiloh]

I think it is like plugging the old cheats cartridge in haha.

I am not sure but in the Uk way back, there used to be a guy called the games guru I used to watch on TV and he would give codes and cheats out each week lol

On a more serious note the game is not difficult and I love a challenge but maybe I am old school. I also hate being the one that is dead but its fun, it would be really boring if I knew what was gonna happen. I like to get better and learn.

The Sega stack Sega Genesis+32x+game genie+ sonic and knuckles+ another game rofl

[Haru304]

A. Wouldn't be profitable
B. It causes people, presumably, more joy than it does irritate people

Those are the two big ones, imo.

[Liam_Harper]

It's actually a good argument for an official parser, because then they can crack down far heavier on third party software, triggers and such. Right now they know they can't outright ban ACT, their raid community would take a hard hit because of how fights are designed around enrage timers and have no replay value besides log chasing and self improvement. That would trickle down to non-raiders who would lose motivation, streamers would move to other games, ect. So they've just swept it under the rug where it grows and can't be kept in check. They don't really know what to do with it.

Having an official parser in solo content, EX, Savage and Ultimate only (optionally compatible with fflogs) and continuing the no harassment over dps policy would let them ban ACT entirely, no longer exclude console players and keep casual content fully parser free.