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    Can the devs please address Thancred's Eyes?

    Okay, so, like many people I was wondering how Thancred would appear upon his return to The Source. When he left he was rogue-ish, with long hair and an eyepatch. But upon encountering him on The First his appearance changed. This was explained through the story with him having been there for around 5 years, and not in his real body either, so the changes were understandable. But upon returning to The Source, he looked the same as he did on The First. Now his hair is one thing, but what is up with his eyes?

    There have been many speculations about what is up with them, and whether or not he has an issue with them or not is one thing, but his eyes aren't consistent. First they're brown, then they're silver, then mismatched, then hazel, then mismatched the other way, then a lighter hazel. It's all so confusing.

    There has to be something off here, right? Because if these were just simple errors they should've been easily fixed during maintenance or something.

    So SE, can you please help us understand what is going on with his eyes?
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    I've never noticed a change in his eyes in game. To be fair, I have never looked at them either.
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    Yoshikawa actually did adress it during fanfest:

    Ishikawa wants to resolve a misunderstanding: people ask her why did Thancred eyes get healed in Shadowbringers? She says it was a temporary injury. He didn't want to stand out on the first and out of consideration for Ryne he made himself look a bit neater.

    When he returned to his body in the Source, where it had a different skin tone due to the events in Heavensward and Tataru would have cleaned him up a bit.
    https://twitter.com/Nova_Crystallis/...108145157?s=20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    Yoshikawa actually did adress it during fanfest:



    https://twitter.com/Nova_Crystallis/...108145157?s=20
    I mean that explains half of it, but not why his eyes have fluctuated so much and in some odd degrees. A temporary injury is one thing, but they changed so much over the course of the game.
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    The reason eyes turn from silver to brown is because when you make them a certain grey color, it reflects back whatever the surrounding color is and this happens with the Warrior of Light as well. The grey looks as if it's blue and it usually reflects back blue from the sky and the environment, but it can vary a lot depending on the lighting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    The reason eyes turn from silver to brown is because when you make them a certain grey color, it reflects back whatever the surrounding color is and this happens with the Warrior of Light as well. The grey looks as if it's blue and it usually reflects back blue from the sky and the environment, but it can vary a lot depending on the lighting.
    Lighting may play a small part in the colors being slightly different, but not to the degree Thancreds have been. First they are brown, then one silver one brown, then both silver, then both hazel, then one hazel one brown. Admittedly hazel and brown are close enough that lighting could be called into question but silver still makes no sense.

    Then there are the "real life" applications. Granted, irl, we don't have aether, but irl if your eye gets an injury that causes its color to lighted, it physically/naturally can't go back to a darker color. Additionally, as someone who has silvery eyes irl too, I can say with certainly that they can never appear brown. While it is true that the environment and lighting we are in can make our eyes appear different colors, silver eyes cannot look brown in any proper lighting. Our eyes absorb light and reflect it back out, that's why we have different colors, because the reflection is happening inside our bodies.

    Ultimately, I think the answer Ishikawa gave is probably the best we'll get, even if logically it doesn't make much sense. It's nice it was addressed though.
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    They did address it
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    He is just a fan of fantasisa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Lighting may play a small part in the colors being slightly different, but not to the degree Thancreds have been. First they are brown, then one silver one brown, then both silver, then both hazel, then one hazel one brown. Admittedly hazel and brown are close enough that lighting could be called into question but silver still makes no sense.
    They even change that much in the Endwalker trailer itself. Even in the same scene different parts of the eyes transform from brown to how they look in ShB cinematic.

    If it's just different in the cinematics that may be the rendering software that's used for them.
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