[Critical] Male Viera height slider; tall option. Show your support.

[Vahlnir]

I'm more concerned with how customizable they will be, and further support for viera (both male and female).

This is my concern as well. If it doesn't bode well for male and female viera, it doesn't bode well for male/female hrothgar either.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

It's what some people are pushing for. I suppose it was wrong of me to assume you were aware of that, though - I did as much because you were a frequent participant in the very same debates over in the main thread devoted to the topic of male viera. Though naturally things can slip one's mind which is perfectly understandable.

But....how does being shorter then the females mean they are childlike?...
We're on the subject of Height here my-man, not aesthetics.

[Sophie_Lo]

But....how does being shorter then the females mean they are childlike?...
We're on the subject of Height here my-man, not aesthetics.

Fully agreed. And short does not translate into "not handsome."

[Senn]

Besides the lore they’ve already established and Yoshi P already confirming their height range?

Even if the min/max height of male viera was a few centimeters shorter than the females, they would still be tall. This doesn't break lore. And while the model is completed and the height has been set already by the graphics team, none of us know what it is. They could be a little shorter than the females, maybe not. It's fine either way.

But....how does being shorter then the females mean they are childlike?...
We're on the subject of Height here my-man, not aesthetics.

Also agree with this.

Fully agreed. And short does not translate into "not handsome."

And this.

[Amnmaat]

Female Viera are short when placed on the male side of height chart.
Male Viera is a male, we want him to be able to reach the tall side of the male spectrum. As well as the average/short side of the spectrum.

Female Viera on the male side falls on the short side.


Male Viera being tall has nothing to do with female Viera, it has everything to do with the tall options we have in the game.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Female Viera are short when placed on the male side of height chart.
Male Viera is a male, we want him to be able to reach the tall side of the male spectrum. As well as the average/short side of the spectrum.

Female Viera on the male side falls on the short side.


Male Viera being tall has nothing to do with female Viera, it has everything to do with the tall options we have in the game.

Since when was 6ft Average Height?
Who is gonna take this picture seriously? The Average Height is about 5'5 or maybe 5'9. Or is this the Average Height in Eorzea?
Also, that picture of the Veria is smooshed in, it can obscure what the height truly is.

[FrogDog]

Female Au Ra set a bad precedent for dimorphism I guess.

Male Viera garnered a lot of different ideas on how they should be since they were a blank slate that had never been shown. Now that they have been shown, however, we see a race that's pretty lithe and of average height. As a midlander player, it looks like the ones in the video stand about a head taller than a midlander - basically the same height as female Viera.

I think how average they are is already the compromise, and I don't think male Viera should be a gender of Frankenstein sliders to try to appeal to every camp. There are so many tall options already and male Viera fits nicely in the 6ft range without overtaking Elezen.

[Amnmaat]

Since when was 6ft Average Height?
Who is gonna take this picture seriously? The Average Height is about 5'5 or maybe 5'9. Or is this the Average Height in Eorzea?
Also, that picture of the Veria is smooshed in, it can obscure what the height truly is.

Average height in real life does not translate the average height in FFXIV. If your height stance has to do with real life then you're on a slippery slope where I would then use the scientific fact that most real life males are taller than their female counterparts no matter the race, on average, so that should be reflected here as well.
female Viera

[KizuyaKatogami]

Even if the min/max height of male viera was a few centimeters shorter than the females, they would still be tall. This doesn't break lore. And while the model is completed and the height has been set already by the graphics team, none of us know what it is. They could be a little shorter than the females, maybe not. It's fine either way.

I don’t really care either way, but regarding the lore, they state that the females and males aren’t discernible from each other until the males hit puberty and have their growth spurt, which common knowledge should be they get taller than the females. This ties into what Yoshi P himself says about them being equated to Male Elezen. There’s a lot more going for them being taller than the females than there is them being shorter is all i’m saying. It seems like a lot of people’s arguments here for them being shorter is just their weird headcanon.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Average height in real life does not translate the average height in FFXIV. If your height stance has to do with real life then you're on a slippery slope where I would then use the scientific fact that most real life males are taller than their female counterparts no matter the race, on average, so that should be reflected here as well.
female Viera

So you're saying the Average Height in Eorzea is 6ft? Which answers that specific question I asked in my last post.
Is this based on something? Or is this just what you believe?

It seems like a lot of people’s arguments here for them being shorter is just their weird headcanon.

Speaking for Myself, Im just asking Why can't they be shorter then the Females?
It seems the rebuttals are mostly "I dont like it" or "It makes them Niche" and still the question is...why is that a bad thing?
If you dont like it fine, but it sounds like more there is an actual issue with it like it kills Male Viera.