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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Not sure why you are negative.
    Reality is different than negativity. And already explained about the requirements going to SA DC earlier.
    But yeah good luck about that.
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    I'm from Argentina and I'd love to see a South America server. However, there is a sad reality we players from South America have to face though.

    The entire's region currencies are heavily devaluated vs the US dolar and Euro. As such, a lot of South American gamers are turned away from p2p games, and this is reflected in the numbers.


    (source:gamestat)

    If the numbers are not there, Square will very unlikely open a SA server.
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    I think Oceania made sense to be dealt with first because players in that region are currently spread across two different regional data centre clusters which shows that community is very divided. Not saying SA don't need a data centre, they do, but at least they typically play in NA (from what I know at least) so they're not split into two large groups like Oceania is right now.

    If anyone is next on the list for data centre improvement and/or addition it's obviously going to be the Americas. NA isn't covered as well as it could be and if it gets an east coast data centre then SA will benefit from it too.

    I would like if SA got their own data centre, not just because it would obviously be great for them, but it would be closer to southern Africa than any of the other data centres. I know quite a few South African players and the ping they deal with is pretty bad. Not unplayable but definitely not ideal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I know quite a few South African players and the ping they deal with is pretty bad. Not unplayable but definitely not ideal.
    Mmm, sad that Jo'burg is 400ms from Sydney, so close to Australia to Europe times... so I hope that continent is better served too one day
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    better having an East Coast server than a SA server.

    it would "fix" the high latency not only for Canadians or South American players, but to those on US that lives in the East Coast, when they moved the servers from Montreal to Sacramento, half of my previous FC complained a lot and all of them live (or lived) in East Coast
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    Quote Originally Posted by LenValkyrie View Post
    ...half of my previous FC complained a lot and all of them live (or lived) in East Coast
    I can certainly see how the latency jumping up to about 60ms upset them! It's going to be nice experiencing the game at less than 300ish ms when the new Australian DC comes!

    It would be great if our new OC datacentre is the first of a few including East Coast USA, more DCs is strong proof the game is very healthy. SE wouldn't be investing the two million mentioned otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    I'm from Argentina and I'd love to see a South America server. However, there is a sad reality we players from South America have to face though.

    The entire's region currencies are heavily devaluated vs the US dolar and Euro. As such, a lot of South American gamers are turned away from p2p games, and this is reflected in the numbers.


    (source:gamestat)

    If the numbers are not there, Square will very unlikely open a SA server.
    so you are relaying on gamestat source?


    This? really?
    the facebook community has 6.4k on brazil plus 7.5k on SA, ffxiv main NA group holds 34k, that is a good estimate, considering that people from brazil equally on both groups but people from NA are most definitely not on brazil communities or SA, the only one with the actual numbers is SQUARE she knows from where everyone is login in, so there is no point in debating numbers

    if square judge deemed then its is, im just requesting to be looked into it and like i said many times, if not on SA at least on NA East
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weaselbr View Post
    so you are relaying on gamestat source?


    This? really?
    the facebook community has 6.4k on brazil plus 7.5k on SA, ffxiv main NA group holds 34k, that is a good estimate, considering that people from brazil equally on both groups but people from NA are most definitely not on brazil communities or SA, the only one with the actual numbers is SQUARE she knows from where everyone is login in, so there is no point in debating numbers

    if square judge deemed then its is, im just requesting to be looked into it and like i said many times, if not on SA at least on NA East
    Woops, sorry the site I relayed this info from is actually called gamstat: https://gamstat.com/games/Final_Fant..._Realm_Reborn/
    And yes, only Square Enix has access to the actual numbers, but you can draw a rough estimate by comparing the values from different sources. Gamstat draws it's numbers from the PSN. Then you can use Google Trends to see similar distribution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LenValkyrie View Post
    better having an East Coast server than a SA server.

    it would "fix" the high latency not only for Canadians or South American players, but to those on US that lives in the East Coast, when they moved the servers from Montreal to Sacramento, half of my previous FC complained a lot and all of them live (or lived) in East Coast
    So.... go back to the problem they used to have for players living in Seattle, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portland, Vancouver, Alaska, Hawaii.... anywhere else west? The move to Sacramento wasn't ideal, but you're asking to have one problem exchanged for another, and moving the server to the east coast of the US under the guise of "it'll help South America!" isn't good for the players. There are likely more players in California in this game than in Argentina. A server, however, in a place Illinois or Minnesota would be a better compromise... but even then I played for years from California with ping to the east coast and still managed to do the savage content, so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    Gamstat draws it's numbers from the PSN.
    Hard to say if the trend can be carried over - there are some big societal differences in PC vs Console that would throw most statistics right out of whack.

    Does Brazil/LatAm have an unoffical server? Australia somewhat uses Tonberry in Japan as it's unofficial for that region - even though a lot more Aussies seem to play in NA rather than JPN.

    If there is an unofficial LatAm server, then a population bump is much easier to see. Like this:



    Either way, I hope all our LatAm friends can keep paying their subscriptions and getting their friends to do the same, and SE will see that in the numbers when they decide if more DC are needed.

    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    So.... go back to the problem they used to have for players living in Seattle, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portland, Vancouver, Alaska, Hawaii.... anywhere else west? The move to Sacramento wasn't ideal, but you're asking to have one problem exchanged for another, and moving the server to the east coast of the US under the guise of "it'll help South America!" isn't good for the players.
    I read her suggestion as "an ADDITIONAL data centre on the East Coast would help people" not "move it"
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    Last edited by Shibi; 05-17-2021 at 03:19 PM.
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