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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    Yoshi P did confirm in an interview during fan fest they have written new lore to incorporate the male viera into the world and it wouldn't be they just "suddenly reproduced and appeared in big numbers."

    What are your thoughts? We know the males live separately from the males and remain elusive within the Greatwood. However, I am assuming with Eorzea on the verge of a new calamity and the mass-destruction, it would naturally force them out of the woods to join the fray?

    It seems the females are the dominate in the Viera race, and the male designs do seem more delicate. I have to wonder while they are warriors, if they tend to more of the domestic needs of the tribe, such as gathering, hunting and other types of work.

    (My more funny theory is the male viera are so much prettier than the females, out of jealousy they force them to live in isolation).
    The current situation would be reason enough, i'd guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    The current situation would be reason enough, i'd guess.
    I love how so many people are like "what is bringing them out of hiding???" or "this breaks lore!". I can't understand how some players literally forget that the world is on the brink of ending and has been in great unrest for a very long time.

    Which also proves that male viera are much better bros than Sharlayan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I love how so many people are like "what is bringing them out of hiding???" or "this breaks lore!". I can't understand how some players literally forget that the world is on the brink of ending and has been in great unrest for a very long time.

    Which also proves that male viera are much better bros than Sharlayan.
    I was just interested in theories. I don't have any issue with "lore breaking" this wasn't supposed to be a negative thread. I was just genuinely curious, but I guess here on the forums you can't be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I love how so many people are like "what is bringing them out of hiding???" or "this breaks lore!". I can't understand how some players literally forget that the world is on the brink of ending and has been in great unrest for a very long time.

    Which also proves that male viera are much better bros than Sharlayan.
    You think people pay attention in this game? The MSQ is simply a hurdle to standing AFK in limsa all day!

    For real though. Even if the expansion were not about the end of the world, the player character has always been separated from lore conventions, and is treated entirely as a special individual.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anyan View Post
    Not because he will miss the others but because he can't hear the Green Word anymore, and the silence is deafening.
    Not to ruin your backstory thing, but the Green Word isn't actually a voice in one's head. It's just the name they have for their laws.

    Like we have the constitution, they have the green word. It's basically the "don't interact with anybody from outside of these woods unless you reallllly have to" law
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    Last edited by Averax; 12-02-2021 at 09:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    Not to ruin your backstory thing, but the Green Word isn't actually a voice in one's head. It's just the name they have for their laws.

    Like we have the constitution, they have the green word. It's basically the "don't interact with anybody from outside of these woods unless you reallllly have to" law
    There is definitely something about them hearing the voice of the forest and losing the ability if they leave, whether that's what's termed the Green Word or not. It's probably in the sidequests around Fanow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    You think people pay attention in this game? The MSQ is simply a hurdle to standing AFK in limsa all day!

    For real though. Even if the expansion were not about the end of the world, the player character has always been separated from lore conventions, and is treated entirely as a special individual.



    Not to ruin your backstory thing, but the Green Word isn't actually a voice in one's head. It's just the name they have for their laws.

    Like we have the constitution, they have the green word. It's basically the "don't interact with anybody from outside of these woods unless you reallllly have to" law
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    There is definitely something about them hearing the voice of the forest and losing the ability if they leave, whether that's what's termed the Green Word or not. It's probably in the sidequests around Fanow.
    Yes, this must be what I had in the back of my mind when I came up with my backstory!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    There is definitely something about them hearing the voice of the forest and losing the ability if they leave, whether that's what's termed the Green Word or not. It's probably in the sidequests around Fanow.
    If it's described around Fanow, then it's a specific phenomenon to the Vii's of the first. The viera wiki page doesn't mention anything about it. Unless they're being entirely metaphorical. I remember a side quest in Fanow about the Viis realizing they should try and reconnect with their exiled sisters, but i don't recall it mentioning anything about them hearing a mythical voice of the forest, and how they're cut off from it if they leave.

    As far as i know, the only canon creatures that can literally hear the forest are the Padjal (Seedseers).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    If it's described around Fanow, then it's a specific phenomenon to the Vii's of the first. The viera wiki page doesn't mention anything about it.
    "The Viera wiki page" is not a definitive source on the game. The wiki is fan-edited and fans can get things wrong.

    Also my understanding is that there was a dev statement somewhere that Viis and Viera culture can be considered near-identical but I don't have a quotable source for that. Err on the side of caution, but it does add up that on one side the Viera have an un-elaborated-upon "Green Word" and their racial and cultural counterpart is sensitive to the voice of the forest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    "The Viera wiki page" is not a definitive source on the game. The wiki is fan-edited and fans can get things wrong.

    Also my understanding is that there was a dev statement somewhere that Viis and Viera culture can be considered near-identical but I don't have a quotable source for that. Err on the side of caution, but it does add up that on one side the Viera have an un-elaborated-upon "Green Word" and their racial and cultural counterpart is sensitive to the voice of the forest.
    Hmmm, Rak'tika is an analogue for the Black Shroud. Perhaps in the absence of the Padjal, the elementals of the first decide to speak to the Vii's instead? That would make sense to me, anyway.
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