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  1. #21
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    Bright-Flower's Avatar
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    Housing is more of a server limitation problem where as filling in the missing genders on viera/hrothgar is an artist/animator time constraint problem. While I hope one day to see either enough wards added that housing isn't a problem or instanced housing for all, they're not problems that have the same cause or solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missbone View Post
    I would vote for that if the plot and house wouldn't have a demolished timer that gets rids of everything once you didnt visit it for more than a month. I would have no issue with paying 50 or even 100m for a small plot if i had the guarantee that i will keep it forever like its usual in nearly every other mmo with housing.
    I don't mind the leasing aspect itself. But I do hate the fact it's basically tied to your subscription.. Which goes agains Yoshi P's original promise which is pretty famous hell a few people still have the quote in there forum sigs.

    However if they did add a lease system where you can just buy "housing ventures" (for want of a better term) with GC seals or something and trade them in for a weeks plot lease or whatever I'd be totally cool with that. As you could just trade in like 6 months worth of ventures befroe you drop your sub and take a break and be golden when you come back.

    But the current demo thing does suck because it goes against another of Yoshi P's famous quotes. That it's ok to take a break and unsubscribe for a while, Everything will still be here for you when you come back....

    Everything except my house.....
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    Last edited by Dzian; 05-22-2021 at 01:04 AM.

  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    I dont mind the leasing aspect. but i do hate the fact its basically tied to your subscription.. which goes agains yoshi-ps ortiginal promise which is pretty famous hell a few people still have the quote in there forum sigs.

    but if they did a lease system where you can just buy "housing ventures" for want of a better term with gc seals or something and trade them in for a weeks lease or whatever i'd be cool with that. just trade in like 6 months worth of ventures befroe you take a break and your golden...

    but the current demo thing does suck because it goes against another of yoshi p famous quotes. that its ok to take a break and unsubscribe everything will still be here when you come back....
    Everything except my house.....
    Well i never saw these statements' but than again i don't care that much about news or live shows. But yea its pretty obvious and honestly still the main reason why i keep the sub even if i don't play the game that much sometimes. Being able to take a break without the knowing that you lose your property and half of your stuff you worked for would indeed be nice. Or just focusing on an alt without feeling the need to log in with your main every few days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Koneko_ View Post
    it's most likely wishful thinking i doubt the farm will have any instance housing they already said before that the servers can't handle the mass instance that that mass housing would involve
    To be clear it's the ward instances that cause the server strain, because the servers are running all of them nonstop whether players are there or not. For this reason they can't automatically add more wards based on demand without deterioration of server performance. They have to plan and carefully add wards with server resources in mind.

    The housing interiors are inactive until a player enters. A huge amount of them are possible, as you see already with FC rooms and apartment blocks. Seemingly most people are dissatisfied with what those provide. The new Island Sanctuary thing is not housing, but maybe it will allow people without plots to crossbreed crops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missbone View Post
    Well i never saw these statements' but than again i don't care that much about news or live shows. But yea its pretty obvious and honestly still the main reason why i keep the sub even if i don't play the game that much sometimes. Being able to take a break without the knowing that you lose your property and half of your stuff you worked for would indeed be nice. Or just focusing on an alt without feeling the need to log in with your main every few days.
    I can confirm. At the housing release, Y-P said we were not going to lose our house. I will try to find the interview.

    Sad... accurates archives from 2013-2014 are not that easy to find... Google is not my friend anymore
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    Last edited by Eldevern; 05-22-2021 at 01:22 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    If they give away larges for cheap/free...oh my god I can't wait to see the riots over that.
    Not free. Same price as is now. I’d pay 50mil+ for a large house on an island by myself.
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    Could do a rent escrow system like EQ2. You can dump platinum in an account that the rent will auto draw from until it's empty. Even then, that game locks you out of your house til rents paid, not auto demolish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mightion View Post
    Short version: Yoshi-P said it’s being discussed but don’t count on a lottery being the answer.
    Good, cause lottery isn't the answer. It's just a bandaid that moves one type of rng to another.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post
    Good, cause lottery isn't the answer. It's just a bandaid that moves one type of rng to another.
    It certainly isn't the solution, but it would be a welcome measure in the meantime that should theoretically be easier to implement. Still rng but it lets people just put in their gil and wait to see what happens (and get refunded if they don't get it) rather than having people camping plots for hours. Not perfect but far better IMO than the current situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    I can confirm. At the housing release, Y-P said we were not going to lose our house. I will try to find the interview.

    Sad... accurates archives from 2013-2014 are not that easy to find... Google is not my friend anymore
    Here ya go

    1:14:22
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.
    Source https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-%2810-30-2013

    was bored waiting for my diamond party to fill
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