I don't understand why they don't want more races

[DamianFatale]

Splatoon 2 expansion: Octolings
WoW: Every new race ever added.
Pokemon: Not really a race, but every new Pokemon added drives massive sales. I'm sure the dlc sold well.
Dragon Quest XI: The new races made the game even more popular.
Star Wars: The Old Republic always had a massive influx of players whenever a new race was added.

It's not that hard to figure out. People love character customization.

[Absurdity]

Nice of you to know how the inner workings of the development do their work. So you saying they just used the other races to create gear and don't check each one of them afterwards for like say quality checking? I think the development team mentioned this process in a previous fan festival.

Do they need to check that it doesn't clip on some races? Probably, but that is not as much work as you might think when you can scale the bones in real time in pretty much any decent 3d modeling software and even test the animations before even exporting the model.
Also most of the models have very few areas where they even can clip, since armor pieces simply replace the body parts they're covering, so your chest can't clip through your chestplate because your chest isn't being rendered by the game anymore.

[ItMe]

Nope, they don't. Same body, same rigging.

Oh my god it really is that simple isn't it... OTL

Nope they aren't. Again, see Hrothgar's Summer Indigo Shirt

I don't understand what the Indigo Shirt is supposed to show me. Can you elaborate?

[lezard21]

Splatoon 2 expansion: Octolings
WoW: Every new race ever added.
Pokemon: Not really a race, but every new Pokemon added drives massive sales. I'm sure the dlc sold well.
Dragon Quest XI: The new races made the game even more popular.
Star Wars: The Old Republic always had a massive influx of players whenever a new race was added.

It's not that hard to figure out. People love character customization.

I will speak for WoW and Pokemon since there are franchises that I've played, but I'd take a guess it's the same case for the other ones.

HOW are you certain that it was the addition of new races (or in the case of Pokemon new Pokemons) that drove the sales and not the fact that said new races came along an expansion that added new content (and in the case of Pokemon a whole new game).

This is the most biased study I've ever seen lol.

[Absurdity]

I don't understand what the Indigo Shirt is supposed to show me. Can you elaborate?

I haven't seen it but I assume it clips into the Hrothgar's hips in certain idle stances since cloth physics are basically nonexistent in this game...or maybe the sleeves clip into the body. I've sometimes even seen armor pieces clip into themselves when they have multiple parts to them and the weights on the individual pieces aren't correct.

[lezard21]

I don't understand what the Indigo Shirt is supposed to show me. Can you elaborate?

As you can see the unbuttoned segment of the shirt shoots out like a skirt on Hrothgars because it was not adjusted to compensate for Hrothgar's hunched stance. It's just rigged to the Roegadyn body they use.

Sorry I can't take better screenshots but I ended up not buying/crafting the shirt due to how silly it ends up looking.

[MoofiaBossVal]

Each player race added probably adds at least a million dollars to the game's development budget because you need artists working fulltime in Tokyo which has a high cost of living. Each race needs artists to tweak gear to fit them (and there is an absolutely gargantuan number of gear in this game), create new hairstyles for them, create animations for them (animation is ludicrously time intensive), QA it all, etc. They were apparently already stretching themselves to the limit with male Hrothgar and female Viera, who still can't wear most headgear in the game and haven't gotten any new hairstyles since launch. It's also rather worrying that what headgear we DID get for male Hrothgar and female Viera was apparently made by the devs on their off time. During this fanfest, Yoshida said that the devs made male Viera on their offtime as well. This signals to me that the dev team is stretched to their limit and that Yoshida does not believe it is worth the opportunity cost of having his devs work on Hrothgar and Viera over doing other things. I hope the devs spending extra time on these races are being paid overtime...

[lezard21]

Meanwhile this is how it looks on Roe and Hyur, much closer fitted to the body.



If they DID take the time to adjust every armor to the new races idle stances and animations then yeah, I'd agree that it takes an insane amount of work to do that for every existing armor. But they don't, and a lot of armors end up clipping when using animations. So the argument of "too much work to rig every armor to Hrothgar/Viera" is at least disingenuous.

Each player race added probably adds at least a million dollars to the game's development budget because you need artists working fulltime in Tokyo which has a high cost of living. Each race needs create new hairstyles for them, create animations for them (animation is ludicrously time intensive), QA it all, etc. They were apparently already stretching themselves to the limit with male Hrothgar and female Viera, who still can't wear most headgear in the game and haven't gotten any new hairstyles since launch. It's also rather worrying that what headgear we DID get for male Hrothgar and female Viera was apparently made by the devs on their off time.

Agreed on this. Square Enix and Yoshi P are the ones that have access to the numbers so if they say the cost-benefit is not worth it for the time and resources they have available I'd believe them

artists to tweak gear to fit them (and there is an absolutely gargantuan number of gear in this game),

Disagree on this. They don't have to and actually don't do that as shown above.

[Absurdity]

Nobody is trying to argue that it doesn't take a lot of time to add new races and I'm actually one of the people that thinks they shouldn't add more.

What we're saying is that "rigging the gear to the new races" is not one of the reasons why it's so much work, because they don't actually have to do that (well, besides hats).

[kidalutz]

After countless complaint/whine threads because of Hrothgar and Viera I am honestly a surprised this is even a question.

Hell even I still gripe about the hair.

My question is would you want to add new races if you were insulted and complained to for your hard work instead of a hey thanks for this?