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  1. #51
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    MoofiaBossVal's Avatar
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    Kokoro Liliro
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    Brynhildr
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jin- View Post
    I doubt female Roe or highlander were that profitable.
    The idea might be profitable if it is tweaked. Hrothgar are a slight tweak of male Roegadyn and are more popular than Roes.
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  2. #52
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    juicybug's Avatar
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    Sophia Bettencourt
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    Sargatanas
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    Red Mage Lv 91
    It's strange that they went ahead with a new race before fixing the problems with the current two Viera and Hrothgar, you know the no hats or hair for 2+ years? But hey, let's just make a new "gender" and continue to ignore the SHB for years to come. It's possible they might get an update in Endwalker but I highly, highly doubt it. New races are okay- but then you have the line of "well, now we have to redesign these armor and weapons pieces to fit this new form, and what do we ignore completely like new hairs/hats and what do we include? -" and it's probably quite an undertaking. If the race was really far from human like an Ixal I'd be on board for a new race. Humanoids are boring.
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  3. #53
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    CKNovel's Avatar
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I'd rather have more customization rather than more races.

    I'd like to have a Miqo'te without baby face and that could be at least 1m80 tall.
    That would be female Hrothgar but I'm not into playing furry characters.
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  4. #54
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    Dzian's Avatar
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    Scarlett Dzian
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    Sargatanas
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    Bard Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    It's been known since the early 2000s. Races in mmos sell really well.
    I think the opposite is true more often than not. Races dont magicly increase sales or player populations. In ffxivs case a new race might make a few $$$ from fantasia sales but thats basically it.

    The same thing goes for new jobs in most cases to. In some ways you could see this back in heavensward when they added dark. Everyone was like yeah new tank gonna be so many people playing tanks now my queues will be super fast .... and they didn't change at all.. becasue most of the people playing drk just transitioned from war or pld so the number people playing tanks pretty much stayed the same.

    New races are much the same deal. Most of the people playing viera or hroth aren't new players. They're just players who used to be something else before those races were added.
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    Last edited by Dzian; 05-16-2021 at 06:57 PM.

  5. #55
    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Cerberus
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    I'd rather have more customization rather than more races.
    Same.

    I'd be more inclined to play a Highlander guy if I could use a face closer to Snow from FFXIII or Gladio from FFXV. As well as, of course, having access to actual eyebrows. I like their height and physique, just not their current facial options.
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  6. #56
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    technole's Avatar
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 72
    Ahh yes, people not in software development thinking everything is just easy to do.

    Not only is there a large dev cost for a gender+race in terms of time and resources, there is a server hit as well in having to load data for another character type everywhere in the game. While not directly like inventory situation where it follows you everywhere, there is the aspect of how many unique types of characters we have to keep loading for assets. Male Viera face 5/voice 1, Female Lala face 2/voice 5, so on. Not tact on all your unique gear, and other special things that each job/race has and now we are adding new formulas to the system.

    This additional set of instructions is likely possible with additional server capacity and code upgrades. Such as they already budget growth in the MMO system itself for each expansion, probably allocated some of it for this, maybe even at an expense of a few always-follow-your-player things like inventory slots or currency or what not. The removal of belts is a good comparison, they are removing a rather large always-follow-you+stat asset and trading it for more dedicated weapon/ring slots, maybe some of this allocation went to help gender races as well.
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  7. #57
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    Zanarkand-Ronso's Avatar
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    Ahh yes, people not in software development thinking everything is just easy to do.

    Not only is there a large dev cost for a gender+race in terms of time and resources, there is a server hit as well in having to load data for another character type everywhere in the game. While not directly like inventory situation where it follows you everywhere, there is the aspect of how many unique types of characters we have to keep loading for assets. Male Viera face 5/voice 1, Female Lala face 2/voice 5, so on. Not tact on all your unique gear, and other special things that each job/race has and now we are adding new formulas to the system.
    Stop pointing out technical things most people probly dont understand.
    Just complain that SE is a big multimillion dollar company, compare them to Blizzard and WoW and say they have no excuse even if it is a technical issue on their end that isn't solved that easiy. Just pretend you know how everything works and dont believe anything the devs or playerbase says, unless it agrees with you.
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  8. #58
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    Lauront's Avatar
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Same.

    I'd be more inclined to play a Highlander guy if I could use a face closer to Snow from FFXIII or Gladio from FFXV. As well as, of course, having access to actual eyebrows. I like their height and physique, just not their current facial options.
    Thirded here.
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  9. #59
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    Khalithar's Avatar
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    Khalith Mateo
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    Mateus
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    I'd rather have more customization rather than more races.

    I'd like to have a Miqo'te without baby face and that could be at least 1m80 tall.
    That would be female Hrothgar but I'm not into playing furry characters.
    Instead of asking for customization instead of new races, the player base should be demanding *both.* We shouldn't have to settle for one or the other.
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  10. #60
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    MPK's Avatar
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    Mirabelle Weaver
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    Cactuar
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    Instead of asking for customization instead of new races, the player base should be demanding *both.* We shouldn't have to settle for one or the other.
    Yeah it would be nice if we can have unlimited resources and Square not spending our sub money on other failed games huh. It'd also be nice to force yoship to work 25/8 huh?
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