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    SpeckledBurd's Avatar
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    K'ahli K'uhla'tor
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    Monk Lv 100
    Since Reaper is sorta toeing the necromancer line, it'd be interesting if it were to be a Melee DPS with a raise of some sort. It would need to be on a long cooldown, or reaper would need to utilize MP in some way, but it'd be a novel utility for a Melee DPS to have when it's been the realm of casters for so long.
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    Jace Ossura
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeckledBurd View Post
    Since Reaper is sorta toeing the necromancer line, it'd be interesting if it were to be a Melee DPS with a raise of some sort. It would need to be on a long cooldown, or reaper would need to utilize MP in some way, but it'd be a novel utility for a Melee DPS to have when it's been the realm of casters for so long.
    Eylmao, can't wait to see those complaint threads if they do.
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    Arkadya Dravena
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeckledBurd View Post
    Since Reaper is sorta toeing the necromancer line, it'd be interesting if it were to be a Melee DPS with a raise of some sort. It would need to be on a long cooldown, or reaper would need to utilize MP in some way, but it'd be a novel utility for a Melee DPS to have when it's been the realm of casters for so long.
    I would love it if Reaper got a rez. That would tilt me over to maining it almost immediately on it's own (at least until I got access to it and a training dummy).

    Also, please, please, give them (and everyone else that doesn't already have it) an aoe at level 15.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkdra View Post
    I would love it if Reaper got a rez. That would tilt me over to maining it almost immediately on it's own (at least until I got access to it and a training dummy).

    Also, please, please, give them (and everyone else that doesn't already have it) an aoe at level 15.
    You want the melee to hardcast rez?
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    Einulfr Nothson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    You want the melee to hardcast rez?
    I think a different rez mechanic would be interesting. Requiring a full gauge, no or short cast time and essentially uses the voidsent to "rez" a target player. That player is then treated as being under living dead for 10 seconds or so. Thus allowing bringing back a dps in a critical burn phase but still requiring healer input if that dps is to stay up. Throw in a pretty hefty cooldown to prevent abuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nothv13 View Post
    I think a different rez mechanic would be interesting. Requiring a full gauge, no or short cast time and essentially uses the voidsent to "rez" a target player. That player is then treated as being under living dead for 10 seconds or so. Thus allowing bringing back a dps in a critical burn phase but still requiring healer input if that dps is to stay up. Throw in a pretty hefty cooldown to prevent abuse.
    Sounds like a rez that nobody's ever gonna use tbh. Take it off the hotbar and keep rolling with the mighty Red Mage in your squad instead.
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    Einulfr Nothson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    Sounds like a rez that nobody's ever gonna use tbh. Take it off the hotbar and keep rolling with the mighty Red Mage in your squad instead.
    sure, if you want. Just spitballing ideas that are unique rather than the homogenized crap we have now.
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    Arkadya Dravena
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    Sounds like a rez that nobody's ever gonna use tbh. Take it off the hotbar and keep rolling with the mighty Red Mage in your squad instead.
    I don't care. I would use it. There's already a whole parade of morons who don't use their role skills or other utility amongst all jobs so that isn't an excuse. I very much don't want to hardcast a rez though, I'd expect it to be instant with a cooldown similar or longer to swiftcast. Tying it to a resource would suck but if that's the price, so be it. If they did require it to be hardcast I would still use it, but pretty much only in the case of all the other rezzers being dead.
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    Tal Young
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    You want the melee to hardcast rez?
    If I recall correctly when they announced the role quests they said they'd be for melee physical, ranged physical and magic DPS. Currently though, the DPS sub-roles are called melee DPS, physical ranged DPS and magic ranged DPS.
    It could be nothing, likely is, but adding that physical qualifier to the melee and dropping the ranged one from magic while adding a voidsent summoning melee job.

    I wouldn't say I'm set on the theory yet, but maybe Reaper will be classed as a Magic DPS, and get Magic role actions like swiftcast as a result.

    Alternatively maybe I'm reading too much into how they phrased the role quest confirmation and nothing changes DPS sub-role wise. They could just give it a rez that works differently though, no real reason it couldn't be an instant or quick cast on a long cooldown for example.
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    Last edited by Jandor; 05-18-2021 at 04:51 PM.

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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    If I recall correctly when they announced the role quests they said they'd be for melee physical, ranged physical and magic DPS. Currently though, the DPS sub-roles are called melee DPS, physical ranged DPS and magic ranged DPS.
    It could be nothing, likely is, but adding that physical qualifier to the melee and dropping the ranged one from magic while adding a voidsent summoning melee job.

    I wouldn't say I'm set on the theory yet, but maybe Reaper will be classed as a Magic DPS, and get Magic role actions like swiftcast as a result.

    Alternatively maybe I'm reading too much into how they phrased the role quest confirmation and nothing changes DPS sub-role wise. They could just give it a rez that works differently though, no real reason it couldn't be an instant or quick cast on a long cooldown for example.
    You're reading the emphasis wrong.
    It's Melee Physical and Ranged Physical. Two different Physical roles.
    Reaper is going to be sharing gear with Dragoon, it's not going to be a different role to it.
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