Reaper speculation thread

[MagiusNecros]

Yep, like the rdm teaser vid we got. I'm hoping there's more to reaper than just filling up the bar. Sorta like rdm vs smn imo. I enjoy both jobs but appreciate that smn is a bit more complex.

Very well...you shall have to fill up a bar that slowly depletes. Such excitement. They do place emphasis on constantly attacking.

From what I can tell the job will be build/spend and you use your resource to perform oGCDS and maybe another resource to do your burst phase.

Trailer shows 3 weaponskills, your "Avatar" which is clearly an oGCD, and a DPS burst mode that lets you do big attacks.

They don't want to show too much so all we really have to work with is the basics since all the attacks seem to all be single target.

I'd want to see how AoE will work on Reaper and how the class really works.

Right now Reaper and Sage have not revealed how their job gauges will work.

The translated interview saying it isn't a pet job is going to mean the "Avatar" isn't a summon on a timer like AQ, Bahamut/Phoenix, and Esteem are. It's something you directly control through both oGCD and your burst mode.

Depending on how often we can use our Demon I see a lot of weaving. If we can't attack as often then I expect heavy hitting attacks.

From 1-90 I expect we will have a lot more then 5 skills.

[jon041065]

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Never said anything about wanting the bar to deplete or something along those lines. =S

I agree they dont want to show too much right now. Based on the interviews though, there's a lot of work to be done after figuring out the final direction of the job so just showed us what they go so far. That's why I said it's similar to the teaser we got for rdm which didn't show that much.

"From what I can tell the job will be build/spend and you use your resource to perform oGCDS and maybe another resource to do your burst phase."

That's what I said I'm hoping for. That there's more to to it than just build/spend one resource. So like smn has their trance mechanic but also egi assault to generate charges to use ruin iv.
If they have some other resource that's being generated to allow for magic attacks then I'll be rather happy. Not to big on the aesthetic which would I would be okay with as long as it had that "battle mage" feel.

[Kalaam]

We saw like... 2 weaponskills, 1 oGCD, what is likely the level 80 transe up skill and 1 or 2 more weaponskills/oGCD. That's nothing but a very sucsint peak at the aesthetic and base concept of the job: fight with your void stand and then fuse with it to do big boi damage.

[Kalaam]

None of those were developped during a pandemic and had their expansion delayed by 5 months. Maybe some of the abilities do not have VFX good enough to show, or maybe they wouldn't make much sense to show in just a 30 seconds teaser.
Judging the job from this little information is pointless, this is why it is a speculation thread and not an analysis thread.

All we can be fairly certain off is that the voidsent is used in oGCD and you seem to build up to the transformation. That's litteraly it.

[RinaB]

Job looks cool, I think the greenish black colour on the attacks is good and the sound effects are good too. Scythe class for melee dps? Yes please. I just hope they do strong damage, because I'm foreseeing a lot of my groups will be sage, double reaper.

[ChazNatlo]

So to be clear Karl, your assessment is that they will repeat the same two attacks ad infinitum, occasionally weave in the OCD, enter their trance state and then spam a single move as their full single target rotation?

[Karl0217]

So to be clear Karl, your assessment is that they will repeat the same two attacks ad infinitum, occasionally weave in the OCD, enter their trance state and then spam a single move as their full single target rotation?

You guys are really not listening. Dragoon has two 5-button combos that overlap with each since both share Fang and Claw, Wheeling Thrust and True Thrust / Raiden Thrust. It has about 4 OGCD attacks and a burst attack phase in Nastrond. This plus the AoE abilities took them 40 seconds to showcase in the job action trailer. Reaper has showcased 3 basic combo attacks, one OCD and a burst phase; this took thirty seconds to showcase; removing the duplicate attacks reduces it to about 20 seconds. There is about 2-3 other combo abilities we haven't seen and one or two more OGCD attacks. How many extra attacks do you think it will get in its burst phase? Dragoon only gets Nastrond and Stardiver in its burst phase; one of which is an upgrade to another ability Geirskogul.

[ChazNatlo]

You guys are really not listening. Dragoon has two 5-button combos that overlap with each since both share Fang and Claw, Wheeling Thrust and True Thrust / Raiden Thrust. It has about 4 OGCD attacks and a burst attack phase in Nastrond. This plus the AoE abilities took them 40 seconds to showcase in the job action trailer. Reaper has showcased 3 basic combo attacks, one OCD and a burst phase; this took thirty seconds to showcase; removing the duplicate attacks reduces it to about 20 seconds. There is about 2-3 other combo abilities we haven't seen and one or two more OGCD attacks. How many extra attacks do you think it will get in its burst phase? Dragoon only gets Nastrond and Stardiver in its burst phase; one of which is an upgrade to another ability Geirskogul.

To clarify, the intent for my request is that I did not feel that you were explaining yourself clearly, and I asked my question deliberately to have you explain more completely. Or you'd just agree and I'd screen shot it, but you know, whatever.

As for what we've seen, we only saw two different green attacks, and two different Red attacks, and the . To use your Dragoon equivalency, this is the equivalent to having seen True thrust, Vorpal thrust, Blood of the Dragon, and I'm going to say either Fang and Claw or Geirskogul (not the best match, but they're different jobs, they'll have different mechanics, I can't give a 1 to 1.)

[jon041065]

To clarify, the intent for my request is that I did not feel that you were explaining yourself clearly, and I asked my question deliberately to have you explain more completely. Or you'd just agree and I'd screen shot it, but you know, whatever.

As for what we've seen, we only saw two different green attacks, and two different Red attacks, and the . To use your Dragoon equivalency, this is the equivalent to having seen True thrust, Vorpal thrust, Blood of the Dragon, and I'm going to say either Fang and Claw or Geirskogul (not the best match, but they're different jobs, they'll have different mechanics, I can't give a 1 to 1.)

Yeah I don't get where he's coming from saying we saw the full 3 part combo. To me, it's just two parts of the combo repeated twice then with what others have said are ogcd ghost attacks followed by the burst possessed phase.
There's still a good amount missing and Yoshi has stated in interviews now that they are still working out some of the mechanics of the job. Apparently Karl already knows what the end result will be.

[Karl0217]

To clarify, the intent for my request is that I did not feel that you were explaining yourself clearly, and I asked my question deliberately to have you explain more completely. Or you'd just agree and I'd screen shot it, but you know, whatever.

As for what we've seen, we only saw two different green attacks, and two different Red attacks, and the . To use your Dragoon equivalency, this is the equivalent to having seen True thrust, Vorpal thrust, Blood of the Dragon, and I'm going to say either Fang and Claw or Geirskogul (not the best match, but they're different jobs, they'll have different mechanics, I can't give a 1 to 1.)

Not counting role actions such as Second Wind the number of class actions for existing melee DPS classes are:

Dragoon: 26 abilities total. 5 buffs (Battle Litany, Dragon Sight, Blood of the Dragon, Lance Charge, Life Surge), 7 (technically 6 since one is an upgrade) AoE attacks including OGCD attacks like Dragonfire Dive and Geirskogul , one disengage ability. That leaves 13 (technically 12 since Raiden Thrust is an upgrade for True Thrust) single target abilities including ranged attacks and OGCD.

Samurai: 33 abilities total. 7 are self-buffs (Ikishoten, Hagakure, Meditate, Merciful Eyes, Hissatsu: Kaiten, Meikyo Shisui, Third Eye), 7 are AoE attacks, 2 are gap closers and disengage. That leaves 17 single target abilities including ranged attacks; remove duplicate attacks like Kaeshi: Higanbana and Kaeshi: Setsugekka you are down to 15.

Ninja: 34 abilities. 3 Mudras. 6 self-buffs (Bunshin, Meisui, Kassatsu, Huton, Hide, Shade Shift), 5 AoE attacks, one gap closer. 19 single target attacks of which there are 4 ranged attacks.

Monk: 26 abilities total. 11 buffs (Anatman, Brotherhood, Riddle of Fire, Riddle of Earth, Meditation, Form Shift, Perfect Balance, Mantra, Fists of Wind, Fists of Fire, Fists of Earth). 5 AoE attacks. One gap closer. That leaves 9 single-target abilities.

Assuming it is the closest to Dragoon then we have seen about 25% of the class's total abilities and 40-50% of its single-target attacks.