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    Lyth's Avatar
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    Lythia Norvaine
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    Gilgamesh
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    Viper Lv 100
    Much of what you've said isn't right. Holmgang and Living Dead prevent your HP from going below 1, not 0. Living Dead does not give you a whole 10 seconds. When the clock strikes 0, you die. If you cleanse early, the invuln ends early. Holmgang and Superbolide won't kill you when they expire, so if there's no outgoing damage at that point due to a cast or phase transition, you can just as easily sit at 1 HP if you like. The '20 seconds' claim is a common statement, but is false. The only portion of Living Dead that provides any mitigation is when Walking Dead activates. All that the previous 10 seconds does is help you shave some time off the recast if you activate it early.

    Also, regarding the healer required comment - DRK is the only tank which has to rely on Lost Manawall to complete the Aces High duel. With all other invulns a healer may be situationally necessary, but for DRK it is absolutely mandatory, regardless of circumstance.
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    WhyAmIHere's Avatar
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    Mute Shellback
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    Behemoth
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    "It's fine, every tank has to have something it's bad at, as much as it's got stuff it's good at!"
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    Ezekyle Abaddon
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    Ultros
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Today is a sad day for all us DRK Tank Mains. Today, Dark Knight is not fine.
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    "Brotherhood asked for no friendship, only loyalty. They stood back to back as the galaxy burned - always brothers, never friends; traitors together unto the last."

    --an excerpt from a Night Lords Novel, "Void Stalkers" Chapter X: Revenge.

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    Roxanne Steele
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    Gilgamesh
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    Monk Lv 90
    I think Living Dead would be fine if Walking Dead gave a significant increase to healing received, like a 50% or even 100% increase. Basically something to make it easier to actually heal the Dark Knight for 100% of their total HP.
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    Vann Wood
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    Adamantoise
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    Dark Knight Lv 83
    My greatest concern is that they will try to consider the stat squish a bandage for LD as the higher tank hp pools and lower heal numbers this expansion have exacerbated the problem with LD. It just sucks and playing around with the numbers won’t help. Kill off LD and make something new and in line with the rest of the invulnerabilities.
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    Lythia Norvaine
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    Agreed. Most of the solutions that change the healing requirements don't really solve the problem. We had a period of time between 4.4 and 5.0 when Sole Survivor could be timed against Living Dead to meet you 20% of that healing requirement. Your healers still don't have a gauge of how much healing is left to cleanse the effect. You still have no control over cleansing the effect yourself. It's not like you have WAR's self-heal potential. This ability is on the wrong tank.
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sqwall View Post
    Now if they did die it was due to my poor healing and then I have to bring them back within 10 seconds. That's easy with essential x2, celestial intersection, aspected benefic, lightspeed, Benefic 2. Maybe 8 seconds? guessing.
    You know what's even easier... ?



    GNB and WAR take 1 ED, or a Solace+Tetra, or an Excog and then whatever raid healing you have going handles the rest. Not a single hardcast heal. Superbolide is especially comfy for multi-hit busters. Your solution to DRK however is 4 oGCD's, a clip and 2 GCD heals. It also requires that you've been holding those valuable oGCD's. You shouldn't be letting ED sit at cap, LS is for movement and CI should be rolling on cd for tank heals. The DRK's immune is crippling your toolkit. How is that "fine"?
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    You know what's even easier... ?



    GNB and WAR take 1 ED, or a Solace+Tetra, or an Excog and then whatever raid healing you have going handles the rest. Not a single hardcast heal. Superbolide is especially comfy for multi-hit busters. Your solution to DRK however is 4 oGCD's, a clip and 2 GCD heals. It also requires that you've been holding those valuable oGCD's. You shouldn't be letting ED sit at cap, LS is for movement and CI should be rolling on cd for tank heals. The DRK's immune is crippling your toolkit. How is that "fine"?
    This just says to me that SQEX needs to buff those kits. Make those numbers chonky enough that I can just use one or two buttons SQEX, I wanna ignore my ever swelling glut of healing skills and get back to casting Broil.
    /sarcasm

    Seriously though Living Dead is like some of the status effects we've had bosses put on us.
    It feels wholly inappropriate to inflict it upon yourself. I've died to it so many times I've stopped using it outside my static, and have adopted the mentality "well, if [rando] can't heal me up before living dead they probably can't afterwards either..."

    Also, nice pic~
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    Thepale Rider
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    Jenova
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    Bard Lv 90
    Hilarious that Living Dead essentially requires a rotation to manage and some people will still state that it's fine.

    It's also the Invulnerability that can be ended early.
    You can literally end up with ONE SECOND of after using it if you receive a benediction after dropping to 1 HP.
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquilmelody7 View Post
    You can literally end up with ONE SECOND of after using it if you receive a benediction after dropping to 1 HP.
    Real WHM's don't Bene until 9.5 sec. Make your DRK sweat a little c:

    "Liiiiaam? D:" Fun times.
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