Rokien's new thread on Hamlet Defense

[Zyph]

Yeah it's disappointing. I was really hoping for something like Campaign from XI, where players come and go as they please.

But then I thought about how the actual areas are designed, with only one entrance and no real strategic areas to divert mobs to, and I realized that that wouldn't have really worked either, everyone would just bock the main entrance and that'd be that.

So I guess this way they're doing it is probably the best they could do considering level design and server issues (which I guarantee are the main root of the problem). Come 2.0 I hope to see more open world invasions like Besieged or Campaign (the Garlean invasions are a good step in that direction, it's just the rewards kinda blow).

[Alhanelem]

I'm a little baffled about instanced hamlet defense and the 8 man pt's as I was thinking this would be something in the openworld you would go do when you didn't feel like building a party.

You shouldn't be baffled. The current system is horrible for open-world stuff. Do you want something like Besieged in FFXI, where you can only see a couple of things in your immediate surroundings due to the limits on displayed objects?

I'm not really sure why people want that sort of thing so badly even if the limitations werent there.

How about we like, actually try this thing before we blindly write it off?

[Payadopa]

I'd like to see people sign up for hamlet defence and then form a party. Just as behest works. Hope that with v2.0 we get more open worldliness. Oh, and content finder that works.

[knite23]

lol this thread is like a mouse jumping into a snake pit

[Colino]

At least belgianrofl was funny... sometimes.

[Dawiichan]

Honestly, people should take the Garlean Invasions into consideration. 25+ people go to the event, you can only see 15- more NPCs. This limits the content by FAR. Not only that, we are having NPCS help us in this. However now it's 8 players max. There is also the fact that some are DoH and DoL so the amount of things you can see at the battle field will increase even more. Open world events that are 24 hours long, especially after the patch... I'd expect over 50 players at hamlet defense at one time. If this were open world it would probably leave a horrible impression right after patch with the fact that people would only be able to see 1 or 2 monsters at one time.

[Atoli]

Actually, I don't often agree with Rokien, but I was really really disappointed at this too=_='

[indira]

Did you ever play FFXI? Do you remember the beseiged events. SE can't do open raids. The lag is KILLER. I want to be able to see the mob attacking me

thats ffxi it was an instanced it just didnt lock you out but it locked you in uless you telepoted out, but this stuff is being made for 2.0 with a better engine were just getting a taste right now and theres other games that did mass scale stuff and it was success.

[Zyph]

thats ffxi it was an instanced it just didnt lock you out but it locked you in uless you telepoted out, but this stuff is being made for 2.0 with a better engine were just getting a taste right now and theres other games that did mass scale stuff and it was success.

I mean, it was instanced in same regard as each zone being an instance in itself.

[Roj]

So what was wrong with Rokiens old thread on hamlet defense?
Hamlet defense sounds boring, there I said it.