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    Quote Originally Posted by TarynH View Post
    I know this is a fantasy world and all, but sometimes you have to establish rules in said fantasy worlds. World builders go to great lengths to set the rules for magic use, religions, etc. It's not beyond the reach of world building that gender is also established. Until the rules change, we need to be willing to accept that there are two genders in this fantasy world. It's fine and all if they want to change things down the road, but it would take a lot of work. Sometimes words like they/them don't work well with dialog either, so it's a little more extensive than simply changing variables.

    For instance, what would you replace "lass" with in your example? How would you address the culture of NPCs in game having to use such language? It's the same kind of adjustment you'd have in the real world at any rate. If the devs missed something in the dialog somewhere, would your friend feel misgendered? It would take time to address every little problem like that.

    I think it's easier to accept that it's a role playing game where only two genders exist. You're not playing as yourself. You're playing the role of another character. It doesn't have to 100% represent you in real life. They're not calling your friend "lass," but rather your friend's character "lass." I mean, your friend picked a Lalafell. Are they that small? I know I'm not over six feet tall with rabbit ears. Do they have this issue with other games where they can't pick a gender at all?
    I wasn't really calling for a they/them option (though that would be cool), just being able to pick between the main two gender expressions. I agree that fantasy worlds aren't going to adhere to real world stuff but at the same time, it's the players that make up the game so anything to get one to fully immerse the better yeah? Obviously same sex marriages weren't too much of an issue to worry about cultural wise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollyJollyPaca View Post
    I wasn't really calling for a they/them option (though that would be cool), just being able to pick between the main two gender expressions.
    If that's the case, does your friend realize they can pick a male character and literally make them look female? I'm not understanding what your friend's specific problem is. They don't like being called lass, and want to be called lad? There are tons of glamour options and hairstyles to make a male Lalafell (of all things) appear female, but still have male pronouns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TarynH View Post
    If that's the case, does your friend realize they can pick a male character and literally make them look female? I'm not understanding what your friend's specific problem is. They don't like being called lass, and want to be called lad? There are tons of glamour options and hairstyles to make a male Lalafell (of all things) appear female, but still have male pronouns.
    I think when it came to the creation, it was the face options? I'm not exactly sure but that's what I assume. That and I think Lala was their last resort cause they couldn't get that female presentation in other races without actually being female (the other races def aren't as ambiguous face wise)
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollyJollyPaca View Post
    I think when it came to the creation, it was the face options? I'm not exactly sure but that's what I assume. That and I think Lala was their last resort cause they couldn't get that female presentation in other races without actually being female (the other races def aren't as ambiguous face wise)
    I think - although I can't be super positive - that there are some male miqo'te faces that paired with more feminine hairstyles, look very feminine. Just an idea for your friend to check out in the character creation.
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