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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    I'd rather not see it happen, especially this late in the game's development. The sheer amount of text and voice acting that would need to be adjusted to account for such a thing would be a very expensive undertaking - and it would feel very strange and immersion breaking if every NPC - even one's enemies - began referring to every player character as their preferred pronoun even if they had not yet met the individual in question.

    As a gay guy, I don't need a character that I play in a game to be gay or even male in order to identify or sympathise with them. I think if people try really hard, they might be able play a character that isn't an exact replica of themselves too. In my opinion someone doesn't need to be a woman to play as Lara Croft in the Tomb Raider games nor do they need to be a man to play as Noctis in Final Fantasy XV. As such, I think the current system in FFXIV is fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I'd rather not see it happen, especially this late in the game's development. The sheer amount of text and voice acting that would need to be adjusted to account for such a thing would be a very expensive undertaking - and it would feel very strange and immersion breaking if every NPC - even one's enemies - began referring to every player character as their preferred pronoun even if they had not yet met the individual in question.

    As a gay guy, I don't need a character that I play in a game to be gay or even male in order to identify or sympathise with them. I think if people try really hard, they might be able play a character that isn't an exact replica of themselves too. In my opinion someone doesn't need to be a woman to play as Lara Croft in the Tomb Raider games nor do they need to be a man to play as Noctis in Final Fantasy XV. As such, I think the current system in FFXIV is fine.
    Agreed. Imo it would be an extreme waste of resources and there's a lot of other urgent things that need to be addressed in the game. I'd also feel pretty weird if it just all of a sudden became a thing of npc's referring to me as gender neutral. I dont think its much of a necessity at all tbh.
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    lmao no, ff14 stays a fantasy game, doesn't need rl political debates

    man I'm glad its from JP and not from a Last of Us 2 dev team
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    lmao no, ff14 stays a fantasy game, doesn't need rl political debates

    man I'm glad its from JP and not from a Last of Us 2 dev team
    How would this be a debate? The option would only affect how you see npcs addressing your character. Other people wouldn't even have to see it.

    I think it's too late to add this to FFXIV but I'd have zero problem with it being an option in future games for people that want it. It wouldn't be a big deal for a game that takes it into account from the start, it's only a problem going back and trying to add it after the fact that would be an issue.
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    You can literally change your gender any time you want in this game. Whats the point except wasting more dev time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    You can literally change your gender any time you want in this game. Whats the point except wasting more dev time?
    So you're saying the gender fluid should be forced to PAY MORE than everyone else in order to be properly represented in the game's dialogue at all times? Really?! It's 2021 people; time to wake up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    So you're saying the gender fluid should be forced to PAY MORE than everyone else in order to be properly represented in the game's dialogue at all times? Really?! It's 2021 people; time to wake up!
    If I can get free fantasias by identifying as fluid I will RiP my cis'hood so darn quick. You sold me. Was tired of being at the end of accusing fingers for all of today's problems anyway. Sign me up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    I might be a clueless cis female, but isn't part of being transgendered is to be seen as the gender they transitioned to? At least that's what a lot of stories of transgendered people say. That they want to be seen as passing as much as possible of the gender they identify with. So, I'm a little confused.
    Because nowadays people care more about their identity as trans, not the identity of the gender they want to transition to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kozh View Post
    Because nowadays people care more about their identity as trans, not the identity of the gender they want to transition to.
    My original confusion was before the OP went into more detail. In where at least to me and maybe a few others it was a trans person who identified as female having picked a female character having then a problem with being called by a female pronoun. Not with the extra bits the OP gave in response to my original response. I was having a hard time figuring out where the problem was and had thought that maybe I didn't know something due to me not knowing anyone who was personally and just never being up to date on a lot of issues let alone terminology.
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