Pronouns???

[Rinhi]

In the 1950s the psychologist John Money [...]

...forced a male child with a botched circumcision (lol america) to live as a girl and had him and his brother play out sexual situations as "therapy"
despite being a normal, healthy woman after therapy (according to money), the girl 'transitioned' to become a man (again) and later both brothers committed suicide due to the experienced trauma they had at the hands of him
how this deplorable human being is seen as anything but a psychopath I don't understand
please don't use him if you're talking about trans issues

[Destati]

If it didn't require a lot of technical reworking I would love for this to be an option. I have seen many players who (for example) will play a female Au Ra but use the male model due to their height/size (and vice versa). I myself have a male Viera character but am using the female model (for hopefully obvious reasons), so it would be nice to have the ability to use different pronouns.

[Enla]

This would be a good addition if not for the issues it would cause in being implemented. Not the least of which is the rerecording of voiced lines to represent agendered people. Which would then cause them to basically have to redo most of ARR and some parts of HW as well due to no longer having access to the talent pool that voiced the base game. Not to mention what happened to Yugiri's second VA, may she rest in peace. If SE ever makes another FF14 MMO I'd love to see this as an option however.

[Caurcas]

Gender doesn't equal sex. And sex isn't a binary either. According to Dr. Fausto-Sterling "It has long been known that there is no single biological measure that unassailably places each and every human into one of two categories — male or female.

That's alot of words from a few, and one very controversial figure about what amounts to making alot out of nothing. The overwhelming majority, and I mean overwhelming, of humans are either male or female. The intersex designation you keep using to defend your position is an extremely, extremely rare medical issue that is almost always corrected at birth. A outlier/medical condition does not a rule make.

[MilkieTea]

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I'm not writing a dissertation, just providing a bouncing board.

Anyways, the point is moot because s*x isn't equal to gender - so regardless of whether the consensus from the majority is that s*x is binary (which it isn't*), gender isn't and has never been, and it makes no sense to equate the two.

*there are roughly the same amount of inters*x people as there are redheads, does this mean redheads are just brown-haired people with something that needs to be "fixed"? No, because there is a specific gene that codes for redheads.

[Caurcas]

*there are roughly the same amount of inters*x people as there are redheads, does this mean redheads are just brown-haired people with something that needs to be "fixed"? No, because there is a specific gene that codes for redheads.

Doing some quick Google searches, this is incorrect. Intersex individuals with secondary characteristics are 0.02-0.05% and usually corrected at birth. Red haired humans are roughly 2% of the population. Now, I'll extend an olive branch. If you're an adult, choose to do with your body what you wish. However, there no need to push for it in a peice of media that has little to do with that.

[MilkieTea]

Doing some quick Google searches, this is incorrect. Intersex individuals with secondary characteristics are 0.02-0.05% and usually corrected at birth. Red haired humans are roughly 2% of the population. Now, I'll extend an olive branch. If you're an adult, choose to do with your body what you wish. However, there no need to push for it in a peice of media that has little to do with that.

Inters*x does not only include ambiguous genitalia, although your number is correct on that.

Inters*x is a large umbrella that includes those who have X, XXX, etc chromosomes, genitalia of females but chromosomes of males, etc etc.

[MilkieTea]

Doing some quick Google searches, this is incorrect. Intersex individuals with secondary characteristics are 0.02-0.05% and usually corrected at birth. Red haired humans are roughly 2% of the population. Now, I'll extend an olive branch. If you're an adult, choose to do with your body what you wish. However, there no need to push for it in a peice of media that has little to do with that.

I cant update (Im on mobile right now about to go to bed.) But pushing for pronoun changes in games designed for immersion (because ultimately thats what MMOs want - they want you to feel as though you can relate to your character because it keeps you coming back) isnt pushing anything other than proper pronoun usage. Heck, i know plenty of cisgendered males who play fem characters SOLELY because of the aesthetics and would still choose to be called by he/him pronouns ingame.

however, i acknowledge that this would be a huge waste of dev resources, which are already stretched tight enough as it is.

[SweetPete]

I’m just gonna chime in for a second. Actually, nope never mind. Just gonna continue to sit back and sip this tea. Carry on.

[zcrash970]

....... A lot of games are going that way so why not???

What games are these so I can avoid them?