Are classes needed? POLL

[Maxthunder]

I myself find that I use a job over a class. To be honest the class specific gear can just rot I have no use for a class anymore I can solo and party play on a job. It would seem that maybe SE dose need to get rid of the class part and just go with jobs only. I see no point in having a class and job based system. I could understand if I couldnt solo with a job but I can. Class system needs to go and just have a job system only!!

[Malakhim]

Just based on your posts, do neither of you see how great it is that there are multiple strategies for taking things down?

[Majidah]

Just based on your posts, do neither of you see how great it is that there are multiple strategies for taking things down?

actually my blm dies to hellfire if someone doesn't cast stoneskin on me, so I don't know what he's talking about <_>

[Jinko]

actually my blm dies to hellfire if someone doesn't cast stoneskin on me, so I don't know what he's talking about <_>

Really, are you not using sanguine rite and facing ifrit then ?

[darkstarpoet1]

Just based on your posts, do neither of you see how great it is that there are multiple strategies for taking things down?

oh yes, that's why i am sure we both voted to keep the classes in. i was just pointing out that thm is not needed to complete it. it's one where there is a choice on which way people want to complete it. people just seem to think that sentinel is still needed for that fight and it is not the case at all.

that was the only reason for pointing out an alternative method.

actually my blm dies to hellfire if someone doesn't cast stoneskin on me, so I don't know what he's talking about <_>

if you take down all 4 nails you take around 650 damage from hellfire with sanguine rite only. after hellfire goes off use your second wind to recover almost 600 of that damage back. that takes you from full hp to around 60 hp from full after the ability.

[Lux_Rayna]

Just based on your posts, do neither of you see how great it is that there are multiple strategies for taking things down?

Ffs 1000x this. Seriously. What is up with ppl hating anything that gives them more than one option. Are you all incapable of making good choices without someone telling you what the best choice is? Do you all lack the testicular fortitude and self-confidence to make a choice without being forced into one? Answer me dammit!

This job/class thing is stupid. And by stupid I mean the argument, not the fact that jobs/classes exist. The argument is stupid because it makes no damn sense. "Get rid of classes because...because because..." because why exactly? "Classes are redundant!" you say, but I vehemently disagree. Classes have access to a greater variety of abilities, thus they are different and fulfill different roles.

Jobs are specific. They can only do one thing. Now because jobs are in their infancy, they don't seem too different from classes, but they are quite different. GLA has access to diff abilities than PLD, arc than brd, war than mrd (not that this makes a big difference), and drg than lnc. Its self-sufficiency vs specialization. Jobs lock you in a really defined role, classes allow you to do your role while still remaining pretty flexible. The difference between these two concepts is huge, and you'd have to be a mentally challenged orc to not see it.


They coexist as a way to give us options. You now can choose how you want to play. If you never want to touch a job ever you do not have to. Screw playing BRD, you say, you want to do crazy dps with arc by spamming invigorate, keen flurries, etc etc. Screw PLD, you say, i'll keep GLA with all my taunts, provokes, prism cures, yadda yadda. In other words, jobs are not *derp* required. They are just an option. You never have to play a job ever, unless the group requires a really really specific role where you do one thing and nothing else. To make life easy on us, this is why SE did not force us to level jobs.


Now that we understand we can all stfu and stop this silly, nonsensical, ill-contrived, absurd argument.

[Akumu]

Honestly does it matter if you think the system is wrong or right? The cement has already been placed and hardened. There is no way they are going to dig up a core system(again) and they still have so much more to get done. They also are not going to stack every job on our current classes. There will be more added in the future.

If you don't like classes then only play as one from 1-30 and never look back. Even if you received more likes in your favor, this poll would still go unnoticed by any sane dev. I think Yoshi-P lacks enough sleep as it is.

[Rustyhagun]

Honestly does it matter if you think the system is wrong or right? The cement has already been placed and hardened. There is no way they are going to dig up a core system(again) and they still have so much more to get done. They also are not going to stack every job on our current classes. There will be more added in the future.

If you don't like classes then only play as one from 1-30 and never look back. Even if you received more likes in your favor, this poll would still go unnoticed by any sane dev. I think Yoshi-P lacks enough sleep as it is.

2.0 is digging at the core though... you all are in for a surprise when you don't see the same game you are playing now. its gonna be different in some aspects, and they could easily get rid of the class lore wise if they want too

[Zyph]

I honestly can't see ANY classic FF job lining up with the current classes well enough to have classes able to equip more than one job. Maybe (MAYBE) GLA -> RDM and PUG -> THF, but even then, with the 15 skills the base class gets that's kind of a long shot.

So if they're going to keep implementing new classes to match their goal of having classic FF jobs, they may as well get rid of classes entirely, stick with the job names, and if they want to promote a "specialization" type of class structure like they do with jobs now, they can just give players to the option to "Limit Break" (term pending) their jobs after level 30, giving them access to only two other class's skills and boosting their stats, just like equipping a soul crystal does now.

[Majidah]

people who dont think classes are needed obviously havent played thau against ifrit.
although some classes do become usless: marauder after unlocking warrior.