Are classes needed? POLL

[Temos]

Agreed with Darkstarpoet1.

To me jobs are nothing but glorified classes with more of a set role. Even with our 5 abilities with a job we still heavily rely on the classes traits and abilities to make the job. Your not play a job your playing a class with a stricter set of abilities. To make a balance we either need to drive a bigger wedge between jobs and classes and define each a little more or remove one all together.


But that's just my thought on the whole thing.

[Malakhim]

You guys forget once PvP is implemented...that Jobs will be realized for playing through the game.

...but if you want to PvP it will be done through classes...Flexible classes will be desired for PvP.

Quoted for massive truthiness.

[Temos]

Could someone post a link where it says classes are going to be for PvP. Because I may have missed that one and would like to read it. Or is it more opinion then fact.

[ThePatriarch]

Square-Enix needs to stop listening to us.

[Raistlin]

Square-Enix needs to stop listening to us.

what is wrong asking for more skills per job? jobs need to feel more specialized than classes, and only 5 new skills are not enough for that in my opinion.

[Fingerbox]

I like the concept of a class->Job system.
I think it would also be great if they could expand on it in a way similar to what you see in the FFT games.
The jobs we have now would represent basic, tier 1 jobs. In later expansion content they could add tier 2 jobs, which require some combination of a job and 2 classes, or two jobs and a class. These tier 2 jobs wouldn't necessarily be more powerful than tier 1 jobs, but they could be more specialized. A ninja could be a combination of a theif ( if they add it) a warrior, and a gladiator. This job would lose the defensive capabilities of the warrior job, and focus on pure melee damage output, with low hp but high physical evasion. (susceptible to magic damage). effectively being a melee version of a BLM, with high damage but low survivability.

[carlosx]

glad will on future unlock dark knight.

and others jobs will be nice like arch can unlock assasin

maraurder unlocks samurai

conj unlocks summoner

thau unlocks red mage

but........



cos there is always a butt




ups but. problem on talens tree is simple...... i want to be able to exp jobs from lv1........ there is the fun the skills the aventure....... ffxi waaaa old days......


is there a way SE re-think jobs sistems to be like others games.... a real job...... no just a skin..... lol@ soul crystals.....

sorry yoshi-p....... im a fan



but i also think main problem on class-job sistem is; people get into a class in high lv dont have to train on it dont have the skills and they dont realy think like a whm if you only equip a job stone.......

[Temos]

Lets say Gladiator does unlock Dark knight in the futur and you need a Thaumaturge as the other to unlock it. So we now have a Dark knight with a shield. why a shield? Cause Gladiator is the man class which will equip the job stone and uses shield abilities.

Not to mention the Dark knight will be a tank do to the traits of the Gladiator. Ok so its a tank I can live with that. But besides the 5 job abilities it has and the few it gets from Thaumaturge it will play very similar to Paladin do to Gladiators abilities be the ones you use 90% of the time.

But I do agree with you carlosx they do need to rethink the system so its not just a skin.

[Zyph]

Guys stop saying Gladiator will unlock Dark Knight because SE is going to think we actually WANT Gladiator to unlock Dark Knight and then they won't give us a greatsword class.

[Vaymathias]

So in the end, people who dont like Classes and Jobs are coz:

1. Few skills to make a difference between a class and a Job
2. Few things to level up in a future.

So could be more skills per job and uniquee class skills make all us happy?


PD: second points only can be fixed adding lots of classes with jobs

I've noticed a lot of people also have a problem with the context of new jobs too, and specifics of weapons and such.