How is monk after the rework?

[Shurrikhan]

Monk had no positional nullyfying skills in ARR and Heavensward and I managed to play the job just fine.....

Tbf, at that time Monk had up to 4 skills usable that had no positionals. Optimized and without conditionals, that was mostly down to ToD and Fracture, and thus limited to roughly every 30 and 18s, respectively, but it was still significant.

Heck, unless you were needing to up your dodge chance or physical defense, neither of which worked on most raid damage, there was little cost to taking Impulse Drive, which was an entirely on-demand positionless skill (once its positional was moved to Chaos Thrust early on in ARR), albeit at 10-20 more TP than the average Monk skill.


...Honestly, I much preferred that over the oGCD nullifiers we have now.

[Vyrerus]

Tbf, at that time Monk had up to 4 skills usable that had no positionals. Optimized and without conditionals, that was mostly down to ToD and Fracture, and thus limited to roughly every 30 and 18s, respectively, but it was still significant.

Heck, unless you were needing to up your dodge chance or physical defense, neither of which worked on most raid damage, there was little cost to taking Impulse Drive, which was an entirely on-demand positionless skill (once its positional was moved to Chaos Thrust early on in ARR), albeit at 10-20 more TP than the average Monk skill.


...Honestly, I much preferred that over the oGCD nullifiers we have now.

It was not early on in ARR lol. Impulse Drive kept the rear positional until 2.5. I remember the pain that was DRG's positional based combo starters for almost all of ARR. Miss the positional? No combo for you, retry until you get the positional. It's what literally kicked DRG out of raiding in FCoB until 2.5.

[Shurrikhan]

It was not early on in ARR lol. Impulse Drive kept the rear positional until 2.5. I remember the pain that was DRG's positional based combo starters for almost all of ARR. Miss the positional? No combo for you, retry until you get the positional. It's what literally kicked DRG out of raiding in FCoB until 2.5.

Admittedly I should have double-checked. Since it was on-demand and therefore pretty easy to land, I didn't have any super firm memories; I just didn't remember it being a hassle and had DRG capped by 2.1, so I figured it was soon after. (Heck, most of my memories of Impulse Drive surround when it was optimally used twice or thrice per Demolish on Monk since Monk's native potencies were so low and Demolish's DoT initially didn't scale with GL...)

Alas, it was 2.45. My mistake.

[ssunny2008]

. I remember the pain that was DRG's positional based combo starters for almost all of ARR. Miss the positional? No combo for you, retry until you get the positional.

Stuff like that would actually bring enjoyment back to the gameplay.

Doesn´t matter which class you play... get max level, open balance discord, be friendly to a dummy about an hour and feel like a master on your class. The variety and decision - making by the player got pretty much nullified and i´m pretty sure it´ll get even worse with endwalker.

Monk is atleast one of the last classes, where you´ve a bigger gap between "good / bad played". But if we look at the latest rework, things will go nuts in the future too.