How is monk after the rework?

[SpeckledBurd]

Okay, I've seen like 30 people say this and the only thing I've seen about a monk rework was that Monk was getting a rework in 5.3 because they didn't want to make us wait. (And then it got pushed to 5.4.) Do you have a recent source for this? I follow most of the dev stuff and interviews and the last thing I remember comes from:

I think it comes from the FFXIV Reddit Discords' translation of the Liveletter Part 2, where Yoshi-P was translated as saying "Since this is just a patch during an expansion, there will be no new skills." which people interpreted to mean that they wanted to do more but couldn't do it mid expansion. They might have said that in an interview somewhere else, but I can't find anything that says that either.

That said, if this does end up being it for Monk and there isn't more substantial work in 6.0 beyond the standard 2 traits and three actions, then I imagine that the Monk playerbase will riot again. After all the best anyone had to say about 5.4 Monk was that it was a good start rather than it being actually good.

No, I meant you made a point that the reason they didn't do it mid-expansion was so the Human Resources department (???) could use it as a marketing ploy for the next expansion -- except they have never even mentioned it. If a major overhaul to Monk akin to an entirely new job was supposed to be a selling point for Endwalker it would have likely had at least a single line on one of those slides during one of the fanfests. I dunno. Maybe your uncle works for Nintendo and has all this awesome insight but I haven't seen anything indicating that what you're proposing is true.

To be fair, MCH getting completely rebuilt into an entirely new job for Shadowbringers didn't get mentioned during the fanfests. For most of the build up to 5.0, all we heard about it was during interviews where they said they "taking feedback" about it. The first time we actually found out what they were doing with it was in the Liveletter before the media tour with the action showcase. We aren't going to have any idea about what they're doing until September/October at the latest, even if an interview directly asks what they're doing with Monk because more likely than not the answer will be "We're compiling feedback for it from Shadowbringers." However I would still say it was part of the advertising/hype cycle, but it was only in the part that appeals to existing players rather than something that's a bullet point on the box to draw in new players.

[Powercow]

I think it comes from the FFXIV Reddit Discords' translation of the Liveletter Part 2, where Yoshi-P was translated as saying "Since this is just a patch during an expansion, there will be no new skills." which people interpreted to mean that they wanted to do more but couldn't do it mid expansion. They might have said that in an interview somewhere else, but I can't find anything that says that either.

Yeah, figured it was an optimistic interpretation of a fan translation or something. Essentially they're just pulling it out of the ether.

However I would still say it was part of the advertising/hype cycle, but it was only in the part that appeals to existing players rather than something that's a bullet point on the box to draw in new players.

Of course new skills are part of the hype, I don't think anyone isn't expecting new stuff. But I think a lot of these people are setting themselves up for a maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaajor disappointment when the massive new Monk overhaul that we were totally, 100%, absolutely-Yoshida-came-to-my-house-and-whispered-it-into-my-ear-while-I-was-asleep-really-they-said-it promised us doesn't happen.

I'll get excited for a monk rework if I see one with the media tour in 4 months.