FFXIV: Limited Job and why it doesn't work

[Fland]

Well technically when BLU become normal job they should have basic rotation about it... and they can make the current skill we have become a "Glamour Skill" system , you know like egi to carbuncle for example... we can keep like both the limited version to enjoy the carnival stuffs , while we can still use the normal version with Glamour Skill system on normal end game content with other jobs.

Yes and that rotation should be unique to BLU and different from the other casters. Otherwise people would complain that it's too similar to BLM/RDM/SMN.
Unfortunately, the current BLU rotation when you go DPS spec IMO it's not different or unique enough. Just spamming filler spells while weaving in OGCDs.
That's why it needs overhaul in some way.

Yoshi-P even mentioned during the last fanfest that they really made sure that Reaper's rotation is unique and different than the other DPS.

[ReiMakoto]

Yes and that rotation should be unique to BLU and different from the other casters. Otherwise people would complain that it's too similar to BLM/RDM/SMN.
Unfortunately, the current BLU rotation when you go DPS spec IMO it's not different or unique enough. Just spamming filler spells while weaving in OGCDs.
That's why it needs overhaul in some way.

Yoshi-P even mentioned during the last fanfest that they really made sure that Reaper's rotation is unique and different than the other DPS.

Humbly disagree, blus current rotation is really quite different from the other 3 casters and is only "similar" if youre being very reductive

[Fland]

Humbly disagree, blus current rotation is really quite different from the other 3 casters and is only "similar" if youre being very reductive

Agree to disagree then. We're talking about the basic rotation outside of the min-maxing moon flute opener (even I doubt moon flute would make it into the regular job anyway).
I surely would want more than just refresh DOT and spamming filler spell while weaving in OGCDs.

[ReiMakoto]

Agree to disagree then. We're talking about the basic rotation outside of the min-maxing moon flute opener (even I doubt moon flute would make it into the regular job anyway).
I surely would want more than just refresh DOT and spamming filler spell while weaving in OGCDs.

Currently you have:

Alternating nightbloom and SoT on 1 min cycles
30s eruption usage+ rose of destruction (or whatever it is)
60s jkick/quasar+sparkstrike + devour+ off guard
90s glass dance+ magic hammer + triple trident combo
120s phantom flurry + ravana ability (cant remember the name) + bristle + matra magic.

That rotation without moon flute is about as in depth as a smn rotation (and ive probably forgotten something), so it really doesnt need as much if anything to be a normal job

[Fland]

Currently you have:

Alternating nightbloom and SoT on 1 min cycles
30s eruption usage+ rose of destruction (or whatever it is)
60s jkick/quasar+sparkstrike + devour+ off guard
90s glass dance+ magic hammer + triple trident combo
120s phantom flurry + ravana ability (cant remember the name) + bristle + matra magic.

That rotation without moon flute is about as in depth as a smn rotation (and ive probably forgotten something), so it really doesnt need as much if anything to be a normal job

I'm sorry but I don't really see anything depth or unique about what you've listed. They're just OGCDs weaved in turn as they come off CDs (why would you weave them in with those spells anyway? the only one that can be used to weave without swift or clipping is Devour).

And how exactly would you line up glass dance, magic hammer, and triple trident combo when TT combo alone take 3 GCDs? Same with PF+supra+matra which also take 3 GCDs (4 with bristle).

Some of those OGCDs and spells would also be crammed into opener and would not line up with the ones you paired them with.

[ReiMakoto]

Currently you have:

Alternating nightbloom and SoT on 1 min cycles
30s eruption usage+ rose of destruction (or whatever it is)
60s jkick/quasar+sparkstrike + devour+ off guard
90s glass dance+ magic hammer + triple trident combo
120s phantom flurry + ravana ability (cant remember the name) + bristle + matra magic.

That rotation without moon flute is about as in depth as a smn rotation (and ive probably forgotten something), so it really doesnt need as much if anything to be a normal job

I'm sorry but I don't really see anything depth or unique about what you've listed. They're just OGCDs weaved in turn as they come off CDs.

And how exactly would you line up glass dance, magic hammer, and triple trident combo when TT combo alone take 3 GCDs? Same with PF+supra+matra which also take 3 GCDs (4 with bristle).

Some of those OGCDs and spells would also be crammed into opener and would not line up with the ones you paired them with.

The idea is pairing them all of into a coherent opener then keeping them ticker over, not exactly using them together in the exact sequence I listed, just grouping them together on cooldowns. Actually useing them together requires alignment and gcd planning as only half of those ive listed are ogcds as youve reductively listed them. Again explain how this is less complicated than a blm or smn rotation. Both have dot management, both have ogcd drift and alignment issues, both have gcd drift and uptime management to maximise burst windows (moreso on blu as drifting your burst causes it to fall out your mf window which makes large dps losses). I fail to see how blues current dps rotation is less complex than at least a level 70 equivalent dps rotation of rdm smn or blm. Please explain to differ