FFXIV: Limited Job and why it doesn't work

[ReiMakoto]

Not sure if i'd mind it being s normal job, but i don't see how it would work without getting convoluted and just bothersome.

Take its current optimal dps setup for raids and turn it into a duty set (its almost balanced as is) and leave the limited job content for people who want to do it. If they were feeling really spicy they could do a tank and healer "duty set" too, but it would require a bit more work than the basically already complete DPS one (I have some ideas on how they could do a tank set, but it would require adding a job gauge similar to whms blood lily).

[TeraTyrantShadic]

Trying to make it a normal job would defeat the purpose and demand major re-balancing

They were meant to be rhetorical, but I'll play along.

They are trying to make BLU playable with groups, so far this is the right step in the direction. This is a MMO after all not a single-player game. I have to agree in terms of the lack of rewards, however straying from being a solo content is better than just being a solo job in of itself. It just means Blue Mage is slowly but surely becoming playable and somewhat balanced for groups, which also means a possibility of it becoming a normal job. If you want to find the ones responsible for restricting the possibilities, look no further at players who love to optimize jobs and rotations. For developer side of things, no matter how you look at it there has to be a limit. In MMO there has to be a limit before it breaks the game entirely. Look at what happened with Yokai event, people were frustrated with Blue mages who instant killed everything. As for rotation, there is already one for Blue Mages and you can thank optimizer for that, but who is to say you can't play your own load out. Oh yeah, Aetherial Mimicry spells that requires specific roles. In all honesty that actually helps Blue Mage preventing it to be an all in one role job in a single instance, this also means they are actively looking to balance Blue Mage. So if anything that is a good sign of progression and direction, also this means Blue Mage is once again slowly being balanced for group play and we may eventually see it become a normal job.

Well think of it this way, separate Limited Job and Blue Mage. Imagine that Limited Job is its own thing and Blue Mage is already a normal job with its exclusive content coming along with it. Do you see the problem here? The problem is that by essence Limited Job has provided nothing of value. While Blue Mage has provided a lot, ergo Blue Mage has provided content not Limited Job. Limited Job only provided the space for Blue Mage to exist. In theory it would worked where the framework would provide exclusive content, however in a practical sense it didn't this is due to the fact that how they executed it and the fact the content at the moment is Blue mage exclusive. Blue Mage was meant to be a job and obviously the masked carnival can be a fun distraction even when it is a normal job. As I have repeated Limited Job is just a space, move everything to the category of a Normal Job and you'll still have your fun distraction that being Masked Carnival and Solo dungeon plays. While it also satisfy the player base who want to use Blue Mage as a Normal Job. It is a win-win, everything will still be there alongside its content included and the people who want to raid as Blue Mage can do so as they please.

As for the rebalancing, they are already doing that as of now. Basic instinct only works when you're alone. Most of their high potency spells is strong as one of Black Mage's spells. They now need a specific role to gain the full use of a spell/skill with aetherial mimicry, preventing Blue mage being all roles at once in a single instance. All that is left is a job gauge for it and removal or adjustment of certain spells.

[Mariel_Crystallie]

then what use would there be in any other jobs, since you could just solo everything?

of course when BLU become normal job it will rebalance the skills and wont be super OP on current content...

[ItMe]

of course when BLU become normal job it will rebalance the skills and wont be super OP on current content...

What do you mean "when?"

[Canadane]

BLU being limited gave it more content to do than if it weren't limited.

[Mariel_Crystallie]

BLU being limited gave it more content to do than if it weren't limited.

You mean , more "dead" content? ... I agree that BLU on release having so much content , but once all done for one time. what's next?... remember I said "ONE TIME" ...

[Canadane]

You mean , more "dead" content? ... I agree that BLU on release having so much content , but once all done for one time. what's next?... remember I said "ONE TIME" ...

After you're done the content that BLU gets, you can use it to be super overpowered in content farms for old content.
SE loves sending us back to older dungeons and such, just look at the Resistance Weapon right now.
Level 70 dungeon farms are a breeze with 3 or 4 BLUs with you.

[Mariel_Crystallie]

After you're done the content that BLU gets, you can use it to be super overpowered in content farms for old content.
SE loves sending us back to older dungeons and such, just look at the Resistance Weapon right now.
Level 70 dungeon farms are a breeze with 3 or 4 BLUs with you.

Yeah all I can see is another way of abuse the system once again , nothing change with the mog tome farm... and now happen with the relics ( I understand this is a good thing for us to make it easier , but still feels like using a gameshark for doing this ). I just don't know anymore , is the purpose of making Limited Job is only abusing the system? is this gonna be a trend for every limited job later on?

What do you mean "when?"

Dunno maybe someday in the future or on the next FF MMO lol... all up to devs teams , but I'm here just sending some feedback regarding this "L I M I T E D J O B"

[ItMe]

Dunno maybe someday in the future or on the next FF MMO lol... all up to devs teams , but I'm here just sending some feedback regarding this "L I M I T E D J O B"

Ah, I see.
Thank you for clarifying.

[Vyrerus]

Y'all people arguing for BLU to become normal are missing the entire point of BLU. They could standardize it for regular play, yes, but they already said years ago that they would not be willing to sacrifice what is quintessential to BLU to do that. Of course, they could do that. Of course, it would make a lot of people happy. It's not what they want to do with the job though, due to the nature of this MMO.

Also, Aetherial Mimicry isn't a sign that it's being more standardized. There's a clearly more powerful than the others option there, and it's Healer Mimicry. Like, sure the DPS one has more DPS due to the Crit/Direct rate+ and the Tank one gives x4 to defenses as well as buffing cooldown related skill, but due to Diamondback and other things, Healer Mimicry is just way more potent than the other two options. It's a skill that was added to give BLU more power overall without basically giving it god mode. Imagine if all three could be active at once.

It's best like it is now, living up to how it works in all other Final Fantasies, with its class fantasy and lore intact, not breaking the game in anyway(though it did flirt with it during Yokai) while being an enormous amount of fun with a ginormous skill ceiling. You normalize it, you kill it. You're just asking for BLU flavored caster. That's it. You're not asking for actual BLU. And that's a dreadfully dull thing to ask for.