new items are counter productive?

[Tsubarta]

Jobs were not created to phase out classes.

That's what they've done, though. No one wants an Archer when they can have a Bard (especially when you can have 3 before they cap out in usefulness and each one gets Rain of Death). No one wants a Marauder when they can have a Warrior. Nobody would ever dream of inviting a Pugilist when they can have a Monk. Conjurer over WHM? What're they going to do that a WHM can't do better, weaponskill? The only one with a reasonable debate is THM over BLM in Ifrit pugs for Sentinel/Raise.

But classes are superior for soloing!

Is only partially true. I'd never go Marauder if I'm healing to full with every WS combo I do , stunning everything in my area, and having every damage mitigation ability and then some on my bar as Warrior. I'd never go CNJ when I get every spell I had before along with Holy and REGEN. Other classes are still better for soloing, I'd say, but that's still 2 jobs that far outshine their classes in their explicitly stated realm of superiority.

Whether people want to admit it or not, classes are no longer relevant. It really bothers me, and this sad excuse of a carrot they're trying to dangle in the form of pretty looking gear is almost insulting to people's intelligence. "Hey bro can I come Pugilist instead of monk?" "What why? You'll lose a bunch of useful tools for our dungeon runs and a ton of dam-" "CHECK THESE GLOWING BLOCKS I'M BANGIN" "Oh bro, don't even worry. You're coming pugilist forEVER now. Man I can see forever in these things..."

At least they're good for idling around town doing nothing, which is admittedly 60% of the game's experience.

[syntaxlies]

I really dont see why anything thinks at this point its a good idea for class exclusive gear. Classes have been around since the launch of the game and can were almost everything in game already. Im not even saying the new gears should have been job only, but make it for both or job gear, what they did doesn't make sense. Not only dies it not make sense but they re-skinned DL gear to make crappy class gear, that's a frikken joke.

[Molly_Millions]

I really dont see why anything thinks at this point its a good idea for class exclusive gear. Classes have been around since the launch of the game and can were almost everything in game already. Im not even saying the new gears should have been job only, but make it for both or job gear, what they did doesn't make sense. Not only dies it not make sense but they re-skinned DL gear to make crappy class gear, that's a frikken joke.

Because without code changes, we can't have job specific weapons. how would we equip one? I think that they gave us class specific gear instead for now due to that limitation.

for example, this won't work because the job must be active before you equip the weapon:

/equip mh "Job Specific Weapon"
/wait 1
/job on

[syntaxlies]

Because without code changes, we can't have job specific gear. how would we equip it? I think that they gave us class specific gear instead for now due to that limitation.

you do know we have job specific gear in game now right,lol. if you feel like you wrote something really dumb and want to delete you post ill delete mine to erase the evidence of what might be the dumbest thing i ever read.

[Molly_Millions]

you do know we have job specific gear in game now right,lol

sorry, job specific weapons. Edited my post above for clarity

[syntaxlies]

sorry, job specific weapons

wouldn't you just equip a class weapon first then change it after the stone is equipped

[Dragon]

Yeah, I don't get it either.

There's only one job I wouldn't use solo in the first place, and that's BLM. EVERY. OTHER. JOB. is good at solo on top of partying, and these class-specific equips don't look worth it (and they shouldn't, either; otherwise they'd be OP'd themselves for party content).

[Tarrtarus]

Still no official response as to why the new craftable weapons are not usable by jobs yet? I'd love to use the bow on my BRD =(

[Yorii]

the bow reminds me of jehantels and looks like a harp in passive mode, thats more bardish than archer so :/

[Rokien]

It doesn't make sense that a job can't use a class weapon because it's a more advanced version of that class. I can see classes not being able to use job weapons because they are at a higher level so to speak. This is retarded..... come one se