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  1. #81
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    Avatar von LaylaTsarra
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
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    Druide Lv 100
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    No, in fact its quite simple. You have damage spells as a healer, ere go the game expects you to use them. Often.
    And it's pretty rare to find a healer that doesn't dps. It's also not uncommon to find especially co-healers that don't heal and only dps.
    (4)

  2. #82
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    Avatar von Artemiz
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    Nov 2013
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    Darwinian Origin
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    Twintania
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    Paladin Lv 90
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    No, in fact its quite simple. You have damage spells as a healer, ere go the game expects you to use them. Often.
    I'm not arguing against using them, it's more a comment on how this debate has raged, frequently, since about 2013.

    I don't play healer hardly at all as I'm not very good at it truth be told, as a tank though I love a healer that spams holy like it's going out of fashion. That said if a fight is dragging on too long it's the DPS I look at, not the healer. Healer DPS is a nice added bonus especially while tanks are as OP as they are right now so it's great when a healer put in some numbers but I don't sweat about it if they don't.
    (2)

  3. #83
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    Avatar von Keramory
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    Mar 2011
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    Lee Keramory
    World
    Famfrit
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    Druide Lv 100
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    Honest question. If you aren't saving Bene for something planned, why wouldn't you use it in a situation like that?
    For newer content especially where not everyone's geared yet, the tank should be pushing your healing intensity a little with big pulls. With a lot of dungeons there's usually that turn or alleyway of pulls especially where you should save bene just in case the tempo is off. Once people are actually geared enough, I really only use Bene as a last second "oh no I may have dps'd a little too much".

    I'm safe enough with my healing though that I can dangle a tanks life and focus on DPS though. For the whole healer DPS thing, I can't say I ever cared as a non-healer if the healer themselves are DPSing or not. Some people are either not that good, get too anxious to multi-task, or netflixing after their 10th dungeon for the day. It's really whatever. The extra 5 minutes is not going to pop a blood vessel. Probably a big reason someone like me can last a decade here and these more... intense about the subject only last a few months or a year.
    (1)

  4. #84
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    Avatar von Ilenya
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    Mar 2011
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Aurora Vlondett
    World
    Balmung
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    Hermetiker Lv 100
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    For newer content especially where not everyone's geared yet, the tank should be pushing your healing intensity a little with big pulls. With a lot of dungeons there's usually that turn or alleyway of pulls especially where you should save bene just in case the tempo is off. Once people are actually geared enough, I really only use Bene as a last second "oh no I may have dps'd a little too much".

    I'm safe enough with my healing though that I can dangle a tanks life and focus on DPS though. For the whole healer DPS thing, I can't say I ever cared as a non-healer if the healer themselves are DPSing or not. Some people are either not that good, get too anxious to multi-task, or netflixing after their 10th dungeon for the day. It's really whatever. The extra 5 minutes is not going to pop a blood vessel. Probably a big reason someone like me can last a decade here and these more... intense about the subject only last a few months or a year.
    SCH main here, and I get that, but the point was...If you aren't using Bene then, then what are you saving it for? It exists to be used, after all...
    (3)

  5. #85
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    Avatar von Keramory
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    Mar 2011
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    Lee Keramory
    World
    Famfrit
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    Druide Lv 100
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    SCH main here, and I get that, but the point was...If you aren't using Bene then, then what are you saving it for? It exists to be used, after all...
    No you're completely right. There's some level of high cool downs and people not using them for obscure reasoning that they might have to save them for later. Cant tell you how many times I never used my 2hour in FFXI simply because it had a 2 hour cooldown and I "might need it later" despite planning to logoff for the night in 30 min XD
    (1)

  6. #86
    Player Avatar von Rinhi
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    Dec 2020
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    Gridania
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    Rinh Neftereh
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Mönch Lv 90
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    And it's pretty rare to find a healer that doesn't dps.
    what game are you playing and can I play it too?
    (3)

  7. #87
    Player
    Avatar von LaylaTsarra
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    Feb 2014
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    Y'sira Kurai
    World
    Halicarnassus
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    Druide Lv 100
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    what game are you playing and can I play it too?
    Yeah it's called final fantasy 14 you know the real game not the one played on the forum.
    (7)

  8. #88
    Player Avatar von Caurcas
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    Jan 2020
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    Caur Kagon
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Dunkelritter Lv 90
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    Yeah it's called final fantasy 14 you know the real game not the one played on the forum.
    I don't know, the game as you describe seems pretty at odds with what multiple player have described here. It's okay to be wrong, and you don't have to defend them.
    (2)

  9. #89
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    Avatar von Artemiz
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    Nov 2013
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    Darwinian Origin
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Zitat Zitat von Caurcas Beitrag anzeigen
    I don't know, the game as you describe seems pretty at odds with what multiple player have described here. It's okay to be wrong, and you don't have to defend them.
    The forums have always been at odds with my experience in the actual game. Many forum topics have a grain of truth for sure but its ALWAYS massively exaggerated over my actual game experience. It doesn't matter what the subject is either, same story.
    (4)

  10. #90
    Player Avatar von Kyrj
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    Nov 2020
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    Character
    Funyun Knight
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Faustkämpfer Lv 90
    So which is it? That we can use ACT but not lord it over people or you flat out just can't use it. Because I swear I've seen both arguments a thousand times over on the forums and in game.
    (1)

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